WND: Apparently the Governor Can't Find the Birth Certificate

Good Luck said:
Okay, first I will say that I can see why you would read that I implied it was democrats who challenged McCain's eligibility, because I asked if you represented all democrats. I did not intend from that statement to imply that it was democrats who challenged McCain's eligibility. Nor would it make sense that it was democrats, since the challenge was issued before the primaries. This knowledge would indicate that the challenge would have come from other republican(s).

But the POINT is that McCain's eligibility was challenged BEFORE Obama's. The rest of it is stupid spin on your part. "prove it was democrats (plural)" LOL Still dancing around the FACTS that you lied about McCain only being challenged because Obama was, and you lied that Obama was the only one who was asked to produce his birth certificate.

Bottom line, no matter who it was challenging McCain's or Obama's eligibility, BOTH were challenged, with McCain's challenge coming first. Therefore, your claims are lies. Period. Spin it any way you want, but your still lied about the situation being ONLY against Obama, you lied that only Obama has been asked to produce his BC, you lied that McCain's challenge was only in response to Obama's, etc. etc. etc. Dwell away on the minutia all you want, you cannot hide from your lies.

Also, as to Berg's lawsuit, suppose for a second that his challenge had been successful. What would that have done to Clinton's withdrawal from the race? ie: it did not matter that Clinton had withdrawn - a successful challenge to Obama's eligibility would have put her right back in the driver's seat. So much for THAT spin....
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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
And PLEASE pay attention to what you write. YOU point out that a CERTIFIED COPY came to your son's rescue....yet you would DENY the same procedure to Obama regarding proof of citizenship. Remember, birthers won't accept from Obama what your son used.
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PostmodernProphet said:
?????...Obama isn't using what my son used....my son tried to use what Obama used and it was refused......Obama is refusing to release what my son ended up using......
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I already demonstrated to another why the attempted hair splitting regarding the legitimacy of documents won't stand on post #35. I suggest you read it.

And YOU stated the following:

"... when my son renewed his license down in Florida last time we had to get a certified copy of the original and overnight it to him so his license didn't expire"

"certified copy" of a birth document THAT IS RECOGNIZED AS LEGITIMATE IN THE STATE CLAIMED can be used in the same fashion. I have yet to hear from any official from the other 49 states that they wouldn't accept Obama's records as legitimate. Only birthers keep trying to create all types of fantastic scenarios as to how Obama is part of some fantastic conspiracy dating back nearly 50 years that involved two Hawaiian newspapers, a public hospital, and later the State of Illinois and then Secret Service of the USA. :palm:
 
Originally Posted by bravo
Your link has nothing ....absolutely nothing to do with the topic of my post...

Its like me claiming water is wet and you responding that the sky is blue....completely irrelevant to whats being said.

You're a pinhead of the first degree....that has a major problem understanding WTF you read....

Christie's claims are a bullshit attempt to blame the birth controversy on some imaginary right wing "birthers" when it was initiated by the Hillary supporter Philip Berg has filed a lawsuit in federal court some time before the Dem. convention.....and news reports show it was brought up months before by the Clinton campaign, long before the actual filing of the suit....

Feel free to honk you little horn now Clarabell...like the clown you are and next time, try to keep up with what we.re talking about.....
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christiefan915 said:
Do you really have a clue about what you're writing?

The birther controversy heated up in April 2008, not August. Obama released the BC in June 2008. Berg filed the lawsuit four days before the convention, August 21, in response to the controversy that was ignited four months earlier. In any case, when Berg filed his lawsuit is irrelevant because the lawsuit wasn't the reason for the controversy.

You can say Berg was a Hillary supporter until the cows come home but you haven't proven that his support, whatever it was, translated to Hillary furthering the conspiracy. There's no mention on his website about Hillary.
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Logical thinking (such as understanding the significance chronological events) is not one of Bravo's strong suits. ;)
 
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Originally Posted by christiefan915
Obama announced his candidacy on February 10, 2007. From that day on his business was out there for anybody to investigate, including the states and the feds. The birther nonsense began receiving attention in mid-2008, over one year later, following Obama's victory in the Democratic primaries, in late 2008–early 2009 with regard to the Electoral College vote and Obama's inauguration, and later during various court proceedings.

Apparently you want me to think that in mid-2008 somebody suddenly had an "aha!" moment and decided it was time for Obama's birthplace to be investigated.

Sorry, not buying it.

*Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Good Luck said:
LOL You history re-writers never get it right, do you?

The first challenge to Obama's birth certificate came from (tada!!) DEMOCRATS who were supporting Clinton. The issue was first brought out in April, and simmered for 2 months until Obama's COLB was released in June. And the first actual law suit was filed by a man named Philip Berg, AFTER the COLB was released, but prior to the Democratic Convention.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9920

We even discussed it in several threads on this very site.
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?t=13413
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?t=13412


Oh, and the issue of McCain's birth and eligibility was also discussed right here, and was done so BEFORE Obama's eligibility was challenged:
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?t=9176
So, it seems to me that some democrats fed off each other's bovine cookies, and used what seemed a good idea againstg McCain, and tried to turn it against Obama.

So, how about you Obama butt kissers quit the fucking lies?
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FYI, genius:

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showpost.php?p=763868&postcount=220
 
christiefan915 said:
Nada? Politifact says this is false.

"As a fact-checking news Web site, we went to extensive lengths to sort out the truth. We got a copy of his 1992 marriage certificate from the Cook County (Ill.) Bureau of Vital Statistics. His driver's license record from the Illinois Secretary of State's office. His registration and disciplinary record with the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois. Not to mention all of his property records."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
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This isn't about facts for our birther/neocon/oather/teabagger friends....for most of them on these boards, it's just about not admitting being wrong or being right on points....but for the true believers it's about stopping the communist/socialist/liberal agenda that they learned about at their daddy's knee from being right on any level for recorded history. So they make up a list of accusations, and keep repeating them. When the list is categorically proven wrong, they just start from the top again.
 
Taichiliberal said:
I already demonstrated to another why the attempted hair splitting regarding the legitimacy of documents won't stand on post #35. I suggest you read it.

And YOU stated the following:

"... when my son renewed his license down in Florida last time we had to get a certified copy of the original and overnight it to him so his license didn't expire"

"certified copy" of a birth document THAT IS RECOGNIZED AS LEGITIMATE IN THE STATE CLAIMED can be used in the same fashion. I have yet to hear from any official from the other 49 states that they wouldn't accept Obama's records as legitimate. Only birthers keep trying to create all types of fantastic scenarios as to how Obama is part of some fantastic conspiracy dating back nearly 50 years that involved two Hawaiian newspapers, a public hospital, and later the State of Illinois and then Secret Service of the USA. :palm:
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but again....that isn't what Obama has presented.....you can pretend you've responded if you like.....but you haven't.....
 
birther central here, hillarious that college educated (stretching maybe) people cow tow to such low brow non issue based banter.
But look at the history of these jesus freaks doing it.
 
Taichiliberal said:
birther/neocon/oather/teabagger
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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I already demonstrated to another why the attempted hair splitting regarding the legitimacy of documents won't stand on post #35. I suggest you read it.

And YOU stated the following:

"... when my son renewed his license down in Florida last time we had to get a certified copy of the original and overnight it to him so his license didn't expire"

"certified copy" of a birth document THAT IS RECOGNIZED AS LEGITIMATE IN THE STATE CLAIMED can be used in the same fashion. I have yet to hear from any official from the other 49 states that they wouldn't accept Obama's records as legitimate. Only birthers keep trying to create all types of fantastic scenarios as to how Obama is part of some fantastic conspiracy dating back nearly 50 years that involved two Hawaiian newspapers, a public hospital, and later the State of Illinois and then Secret Service of the USA.
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PostmodernProphet said:
but again....that isn't what Obama has presented.....you can pretend you've responded if you like.....but you haven't.....
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What you described happened to your son has NOTHING to do with the bogus "controversy" by the birther bumpkins....if you had read the information provided in the links on post #35, you'd know this.

But again, what Obama presented to the world HAS BEEN ACCEPTED by the State of Illinois (which includes their Dept. of Motor Vehicles), the US Secret Service, the US State Dept., the US Congress/Senate....so that pretty much trumps the whinings of a bunch of anti-Obama clowns....unless they (the anti-Obama/birther clowns) can provide proof that the forementioned were linked to a nearly 40 year conspiracy that included two Hawaiian newspapers, their hospital and the State of Hawaii.

So YOU, my Post Modern Fool, and repeat your birther bullshit ad nauseum to know avail.
 
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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
This isn't about facts .
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PostmodernProphet said:
you're right.....it isn't about fact.....it's about Obama refusing to disclose facts.....as I've said, I could care less where he was born.....I'm just curious why he won't release the information.......
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You need to stop this childish habit of taking out of context excerpts from others in order to repeat some moot point of yours, PMP.

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showpost.php?p=764716&postcount=234
 
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Taichiliberal said:
What you described happened to your son has NOTHING to do with the bogus "controversy" by the birther bumpkins....if you had read the information provided in the links on post #35, you'd know this.

But again, what Obama presented to the world HAS BEEN ACCEPTED by the State of Illinois (which includes their Dept. of Motor Vehicles), the US Secret Service, the US State Dept., the US Congress/Senate....so that pretty much trumps the whinings of a bunch of anti-Obama clowns....unless they (the anti-Obama/birther clowns) can provide proof that the forementioned were linked to a nearly 40 year conspiracy that included two Hawaiian newspapers, their hospital and the State of Hawaii.

So YOU, my Post Modern Fool, and repeat your birther bullshit ad nauseum to know avail.
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then there's no reason for you to be concerned that many states have now passed laws that to get on the ballot the documentation Obama refuses to release will have to be provided....problem solved....
 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvrb7YqdvxE&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - Abercrombie Admits There Are No Obama Birth Records In Hawaii[/ame]
 
Ice, that's pretty damning. Obviously the document doesn't exist.

When several States require proof of eligibility to be on the ballot, his chances for re-election are diminished to near zero. :)
 
Damn Yankee said:
Ice, that's pretty damning. Obviously the document doesn't exist.

When several States require proof of eligibility to be on the ballot, his chances for re-election are diminished to near zero. :)
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I was surprised at this- I mean an ardent Obama supporter and Governor of his home state says with all his rescources as governor he cannot find documents of Obama's birth...

I still have this nagging feeling that this is being promulgated to diminish the veracity of those opposed to hObama's policies... another wag the dog opportunity. After all how can an educated voter take seriously those "birther's and teabagger's".
 
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