Worker Productivity Jumps Sharply
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Lets think about the SF.
For the last 6 years, around 70%, give or take, of the american people have been dissastisfied with the economy. That's one of the worst, and longest, economic funks in recent history. People are nervous, and don't like this economy.
What would explain that? Why would enormous majorities of people for years on end, be so pessimistic about the bush economy?
Is it possible that my thesis is correct? That income and wages have stagnated, compensation benefits have been reduced, pensions are under assualt, and people are settling for lower paying jobs in many cases?
Or, is is just that they're not seeing all the "good news" that you are able to divine in the tea leaves of economic data?
Which sounds more reasonable to you?
Lets think about the SF.
For the last 6 years, around 70%, give or take, of the american people have been dissastisfied with the economy. That's one of the worst, and longest, economic funks in recent history. People are nervous, and don't like this economy.
What would explain that? Why would enormous majorities of people for years on end, be so pessimistic about the bush economy?
Is it possible that my thesis is correct? That income and wages have stagnated, compensation benefits have been reduced, pensions are under assualt, and people are settling for lower paying jobs in many cases?
Or, is is just that they're not seeing all the "good news" that you are able to divine in the tea leaves of economic data?
Which sounds more reasonable to you?
For SF
I can only tell you what Wall street seems to think!
Topspin
Verified User
your both right
but cypress you ignore the big picture
It's called globalization, wages for everyone but the top third have been slower to rise.
the investor class has riden the backs of the Chineese and Indians to prosperity.
Like it or not that is what's happening.
Hopefully the next dems pres will not sell out the American worker with new shit aggreements.
but cypress you ignore the big picture
It's called globalization, wages for everyone but the top third have been slower to rise.
the investor class has riden the backs of the Chineese and Indians to prosperity.
Like it or not that is what's happening.
Hopefully the next dems pres will not sell out the American worker with new shit aggreements.
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The Almighty
you are evil. I really do not want to see his idiotic strawmen. That is why I have him on ignore. Why do you want to violate my rights to ignore that idiot? Why do you insist upon sharing his ignorance with me? Why Why Why oh Why must you torture me so with his stupidity?
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The Almighty
See SF? Even top gets it.
The nasty effect of globalization that you "free" traders hoisted onto us, has basically contributed to economic stagnation for working class americans. Although, I'll give you that the upper quartile have done pretty well. Its the bottom 75% I'm worried about.
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Good work topper! We can all agree (with me!), that the effect of globalization, and things like Lame ass NAFTA, have contributed to the stagnation of working class americans.
I appreciate it. See SF? We CAN discuss this (and admit that I'm right), without storming off in a huff, yelling a few choice curse words, and scream that you're putting someone on IA.
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The Almighty
You know, one last thing that came to mind. He knows I have him on ignore. WHY is he addressing me directly? Further proof that he is a complete moron.
FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
Duh. The rich people who are makin massive profits off of payin their employees little.
FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
Free trade's the only thing keeping the working class from having no purchasing power.
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
What happened to the "protectionism is nationalism/fascism Watermark that I used to know?"
Topspin
Verified User
look you'll get a democratic administratin almost asuredly, power usually changes after a two termer and especially after an unpopular one.
The market WILL do better as usual under the dems. Why? Because a rising tide lifts all boats; we've had a rising tide for the country club boats only for the last 6yrs and thats plain not fair.
Will the next Pres have to kill all things free trade?
Of course not, but each new agreement will be better for the American worker.
A side benefit will be the romoval of the police state feel the Bush Ghestapo guy's have us living under.
The market WILL do better as usual under the dems. Why? Because a rising tide lifts all boats; we've had a rising tide for the country club boats only for the last 6yrs and thats plain not fair.
Will the next Pres have to kill all things free trade?
Of course not, but each new agreement will be better for the American worker.
A side benefit will be the romoval of the police state feel the Bush Ghestapo guy's have us living under.
uscitizen
Villified User
Ohhh I agree with that Rudy or Hillary will be blamed for not fixing the woe to come.
uscitizen
Villified User
IT'S THE JOOS!!!!
I don't disagree. No one is talking about killing trade. Anti-NAFTA candidates are talking about fixing UNFAIR trade. Which, I appreciate that you fundamentally seem to recognize.
btw: Thanks for not IA'ing me for laying out the facts and the consequences of unfair trade, and the stagnation of working class americans. Some people IA me for doing that!
I don't disagree. No one is talking about killing trade. Anti-NAFTA candidates are talking about fixing UNFAIR trade. Which, I appreciate that you fundamentally seem to recognize.
btw: Thanks for not IA'ing me for laying out the facts and the consequences of unfair trade, and the stagnation of working class americans. Some people IA me for doing that!
Really? Like who?
