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anonymoose said:
Why? I’m curious because I’ve worked with both.
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Because the USAF has no separate roll in warfare. It is either operating in support of the Army, or in some cases, Navy. The USAF control of ICBM's makes little sense either, since those amount to little more than very-long-range artillery rockets.

In fact, if the US Army had control of ICBM's they could give the officers and enlisted working and using them far more opportunity to advance in a career than the USAF does. For the USAF those are junior officer slots with next to zero potential for promotion beyond that. The enlisted get locked into the specialized nature of those systems with few opportunities to move elsewhere in the service.
In the Army those officers could promote out to other artillery systems and into higher command positions. The enlisted would have more opportunity to move into other artillery positions and systems too.

Back in the 40's and 50's the USAF tried to take control of all surface-to-air missile systems and produced only two, both of which were short-lived and really for all intents massive losers, GAPA and BOMARC. Thankfully, the Army retained control of most of that and produced viable ones.

Even in aircraft, the USAF often produced overly complex, too advanced, and ungodly costly designs that failed for those reasons. They were forced into accepting USN designs that could do the job much to their disgust.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Because the USAF has no separate roll in warfare. It is either operating in support of the Army, or in some cases, Navy. The USAF control of ICBM's makes little sense either, since those amount to little more than very-long-range artillery rockets.

In fact, if the US Army had control of ICBM's they could give the officers and enlisted working and using them far more opportunity to advance in a career than the USAF does. For the USAF those are junior officer slots with next to zero potential for promotion beyond that. The enlisted get locked into the specialized nature of those systems with few opportunities to move elsewhere in the service.
In the Army those officers could promote out to other artillery systems and into higher command positions. The enlisted would have more opportunity to move into other artillery positions and systems too.

Back in the 40's and 50's the USAF tried to take control of all surface-to-air missile systems and produced only two, both of which were short-lived and really for all intents massive losers, GAPA and BOMARC. Thankfully, the Army retained control of most of that and produced viable ones.

Even in aircraft, the USAF often produced overly complex, too advanced, and ungodly costly designs that failed for those reasons. They were forced into accepting USN designs that could do the job much to their disgust.
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My only experience with both is with the medical and dental corps.
All that is beyond my knowledge and experience. Thanks.
 
anonymoose said:
My only experience with both is with the medical and dental corps.
All that is beyond my knowledge and experience. Thanks.
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Medical and dental is the same for every service more or less. The combat arms and support units vary. But the USAF has no reason to exist as a separate service outside of envy and hubris.
 
The Trump Administration said:
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Senate Approps passes defense bill, blowing past budget caps

Senate appropriators recommending a 3.3% increase in defense spending signals that the bipartisan agreement on spending caps might be falling apart.
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House Passes FY2025 Defense Appropriations Bill on Largely Partisan Lines

Posted: June 28, 2024 6:11 pm ET | Last Updated: June 28, 2024 6:18 pm ET | The House passed the FY2025 defense appropriations bill today. The total amount is held to a one-percent increase over FY2024 as required by the Fiscal Responsibility Act budget caps. The Space Force's budget is...
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$118 + billion if the 2025 numbers are counted. $118 BILLION! So much for that Grover Norquist quote "I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub." :ROFLMAO:

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anonymoose said:
lol. Night and day.
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None of the services can keep people in those fields. The private sector is too lucrative. So, only the worst of the bunch stay past mandatory service. Even the reserves, which used to be full of medical types, can't keep them because the military turned it into a temp service rather than the 2 days a month, 2 weeks a year. Now it's more like, You deploy for a year every two or three years. What? You say your civilian practice and career got ruined? Too bad for you...
 
T. A. Gardner said:
None of the services can keep people in those fields. The private sector is too lucrative. So, only the worst of the bunch stay past mandatory service. Even the reserves, which used to be full of medical types, can't keep them because the military turned it into a temp service rather than the 2 days a month, 2 weeks a year. Now it's more like, You deploy for a year every two or three years. What? You say your civilian practice and career got ruined? Too bad for you...
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Very true
 
christiefan915 said:
Going by your other answer, maybe the Air Force could be expanded to do those things. IOW, somebody is doing all that now.
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The Space Force has brought together previously dispersed space-related functions across different military branches under one command, allowing for more efficient management and coordination.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
We spent $28 million on giving the Afghan Army uniforms, including something like $6 of that on designing them a new camouflage scheme for their uniforms...

ANA Uniform Procurement

SIGAR’s review of DOD''s procurement of uniforms for the Afghan National Army (ANA).
www.sigar.mil www.sigar.mil

Using a proprietary camouflage pattern and a different uniform style resulted in significantly higher costs—up to 43 percent higher
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200,000 soldiers getting uniforms for 10 years costing $28 million would be $14 per soldier per year... There is no way that is right, it seems way too low.

Using a different pattern than American soldiers is just common sense. American and Afghan soldiers need to be told apart quickly in combat. American soldiers can be far more trusted. This is just common sense.

Paying $6 million more for that ability seems cheap.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Actually, a space force makes more sense than a separate air force. The USAF should be part of the US Army. After all the Air Force supports land warfare for the most part. The Space Force is supposed to fight in space. The Navy does sea warfare. That makes sense.

The USAF really doesn't have a separate job from the Army.
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No one joins the Marines to join the Navy. A service needs to be something you can spend an entire career in. So the USAF makes sense, because you can spend your entire career without switching between it and the US Army, but the Space Force makes no sense, because people are stuck transferring back and forth with the USAF.

That being said, there is a strong argument for having just one military force, and having soldiers transfer between units the same as they would between Army units. The argument against that is you ruin the esprit de corps. The Space Force has no esprit de corps.

T. A. Gardner said:
No, they are not. A Space force would fight outside Earth's atmosphere in a separate theater of warfare. That is what should determine their being a separate service. The two planetary militaries are an army and navy. The army fights on land, the navy at sea--two distinct theaters of operation. In support both need air forces that can cover them from above. You take and hold the sky (atmosphere) by taking / controlling the land or water below it.
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You do not seem to understand what a theater is.
 
The Trump Administration said:
I'd love to know what happened to the 4 billion Shamala was suppose to use to connect rural homes to WiFi.

Not a single home was connected.

The money is gone.

Where'd it go?
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Do you have a link for this?
I personally know of many homes that got wifi in the last couple of years.
And our house is one of them.
Never had wifi here till 2023 Moved in in 2022 but still had my old house and had to go there for several months to go on my computer.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
We spent $28 million on giving the Afghan Army uniforms, including something like $6 of that on designing them a new camouflage scheme for their uniforms...

ANA Uniform Procurement

SIGAR’s review of DOD''s procurement of uniforms for the Afghan National Army (ANA).
www.sigar.mil www.sigar.mil

Using a proprietary camouflage pattern and a different uniform style resulted in significantly higher costs—up to 43 percent higher

I think we need to start offing lots of lawyers...
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Well under Trumps agreement with the Taliban we agreed to help them after they took over.
 
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