Zelenskyy now says he will sign the deal...

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Phantasmal said:
Trump doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the wall.

He’s angry about Russia, Russia, Russia still.
That’s all he thinks about, and getting the Nobel Peace Prize. His ideas are the last people who had his ear.

Biden gave Zelenskyy the lead. It is a sovereign nation, after all. Biden knew Russia was the aggressor, unlike Trump, and Vance. They mistakenly think Russia fears them. Putin knows Trump is his puppet.
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top listening to Joy Reid
BartenderElite said:
I don't support that. But we used to have that....no?
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ummm we used to have the draft but I remember no time where jack booted thugs pulled up and grabbed people off the street to make them fight a war. But maybe you can share an example?
 
Damocles said:
There's this thing called the Constitution that tells us all that Congress cannot do Foreign Relations... I get that you like to try to ignore it, but the reality is, only the Executive Branch gets to go there.
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I love it when you right wing wonks act as if you actually know something. Let me educate you:

The Constitution of the United States of America

Article II: Section 2. Powers and Duties of the President
Clause 2. Treaties and Appointment of Officers
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Court of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

That concurs with the following:

Fact Check: Zelenskyy met with Democrats — and Republicans — before his meeting with Trump​

www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-zelenskyy-met-democrats-205100784.html

So yeah, Dump and Little Dump were full of it. It was retribution because Zelensky wouldn't play ball with Dump in that infamous phone call regarding Hunter and Uncle Joe ... and because they accused him of campaigning for Harris last year. His response: "I began my visit to the United States by expressing my gratitude to all the employees at the plant and by reaching agreements to expand cooperation between Pennsylvania and our Zaporizhzhia," Zelensky wrote in a post to X at the time. "It is in places like this where you can truly feel that the democratic world can prevail. Thanks to people like these—in Ukraine, in America, and in all partner countries—who work tirelessly to ensure that life is protected."

And of course your feckless GOP run House committees ran (yet another) "investigation" that turned up NOTHING.

So puh-leeze spare us all the regurgitated BS being put out by the Cheeto Jeezus administration and its media bullhorn.
 
Diogenes said:
Didn't his bagman Hunter get a substantial payment from a Russian woman?
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There have been allegations that Hunter Biden received payment from a Russian woman, specifically Elena Baturina, the widow of the former mayor of Moscow, Yury Luzhkov. According to a September 2020 report from Republican-led Senate committees (the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee and the Finance Committee), a firm called Rosemont Seneca Thornton, which the report claims was co-founded by Hunter Biden, received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Baturina on February 14, 2014, for a "consultancy agreement." This has been widely cited in discussions about Hunter Biden’s business dealings.

However, the claim is disputed. Hunter Biden’s lawyer, George Mesires, has stated that Hunter Biden was not a co-founder of Rosemont Seneca Thornton and had no financial interest in the entity, asserting that the claim he personally received $3.5 million is false. Democratic staff from the same Senate committees reviewed the documentation and found no evidence directly linking Hunter Biden to the transaction. Additionally, investigations, such as one by The Washington Post in 2022, found no clear evidence that Hunter Biden personally received this money or was directly involved in the specific transactions with Baturina, suggesting the funds may have been tied to other business associates, like Devon Archer, rather than Hunter Biden himself.

The Senate report does not allege illegality in the transaction, nor does it demonstrate that the payment influenced U.S. policy or involved Joe Biden. The exact nature of the payment remains unclear, as the report relies on confidential Treasury Department records (like Suspicious Activity Reports) that have not been publicly released, leaving room for speculation but lacking definitive public proof that Hunter Biden personally received the funds.

In short, while there is an allegation that a firm associated with Hunter Biden received $3.5 million from a Russian woman, Elena Baturina, evidence confirming that Hunter Biden himself was directly paid by her is inconclusive based on available public information. The matter remains contested, with conflicting narratives from different sources.

Grok
 
Teflon Don said:
That is true. We had no business talking about putting Ukraine in NATO. It was an unnecessary provocation
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Multiple people in the West promised Gorbachev NATO "would not move one inch Eastward" as the Soviet Union fell....it was not written down only because the Russians were dumb enough to believe us. This is in line with:

"Over my career the biggest mistake I have made was believing in America and the West (paraphrase)"
Putin
 
BartenderElite said:
Nah. You're oversimplifying it.

If you don't support the Ukraine - you support Russia.
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How funny that you accuse me of over simplifying things then say something like “if you don’t support Ukraine you support Russia”

You Marxists really don’t get irony do you?
 
Teflon Don said:
How funny that you accuse me of over simplifying things then say something like “if you don’t support Ukraine you support Russia”

You Marxists really don’t get irony do you?
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Barfly isn't very bright, apparently.



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George Bush let Putin invade Georgia

Obama let Putin invade Crimea

Biden let Putin invade Ukraine

Putin didn’t do shit while Trump was President yet to the Marxists on JPP, Trump is the Russian asset

That is what passes for logic to leftists
 
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