Not, the fact that he was a bad president does.
54% of likely voters think that Joe Biden will be listed as one of the worst...
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Not, the fact that he was a bad president does.
Tinkerpeach
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He was a great president by all standards.
The left just got their panties in a bunch because he beat Hillary so they started the hate train against him.
Just looking at pure numbers, Trump did better in his first term than any other president in history.
No, by far not at all. He did more to undermine the Constitutional separation of powers and congressional limits of a presidents power than any other. He did more to undermine the rule of law than any other single president. He gave away money to the wealthy by the truck load leading to huge inflation that had to be reigned in as it was about to be totally uncontrolled. He inflamed the flames of racial tension and pushed for a civil war. He increased the debt more than anyone before him. That's just a scratch on the surface.
He did one good thing I can think of... prison reform.
Tinkerpeach
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That's all liberal bullshit and you know it.
That's why you can't point to any actual numbers of things he failed at.
Because you don't have any.
We have plenty for Biden though.
Bottom four, dumbfuck. Google is your friend.
His performance as president stands on its own, regardless of my personal opinion of him as a piece of human garbage.
Better than any other president in history? REALLY?
Your in depth knowledge of history was noted when you had never heard of Mike Lindell.
QP!
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What makes Trump a bad president was all the crimes he did while in office and his blatant disregard for the Constitution.
Your top guy being the worst on those, will put him on the bottom of any list, whether you like him or not.
Tinkerpeach
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His actual performance was outstanding, that's why none of you can bring up any actual statistics.
lol
QP!
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Ok then give us the numbers to support your claim?
What are the measurements you are using to state that?
Tinkerpeach
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I can’t pinpoint exactly how many tens of thousands of Americans died unnecessarily due to his shitty COVID response.
I can point to the attempted coercion of the Ukranian president to provide dirt on Hunter and Joe and the obvious attempts at tampering with the election counts in GA and elsewhere, which got him indicted.
Tinkerpeach
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Here is just one.
NEW: Economic Comeback Under President Trump Breaks 70-Year Record
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.go...oke this morning that,record set 70 years ago.
QP!
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Presidents are not judged by what they are convicted for only. We all witnessed crimes over and over and that Historians will certain rank him by all that public disclosure, video's and recordings.
QP!
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Not for nothing but you need to quote something other than a Trump Admin press release claiming 'biggest crowd ever', best everything ever'.
Not commenting on accuracy but can you supply anything by economic groups that assess these things?
Tinkerpeach
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It would be kind of stupid for them to put up something so easily fact checked.
The leftist media would have a field day with that.
But of course you will doubt it, that's what you folks do.
I could give you all the proof in the world and you would just get your usual blank stare and deny it.
So it's pointless.
Trumps economic record is easily accessible if you want to look it up.
That is up to you.
QP!
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For instance a quick glance for one my favoured economist bloggers of no BS...
So Tinker, just scanning the above do you see the problem in the Trump Admin press release PROJECTION based on 1 quarter in 2020, immediately AFTER lifting covid restrictions.
Even today you guys do not want to give Biden credit for the real jobs gains, as you say he is enjoying a post covid bounce and yet in that Trump Admin release they are giving Trump credit for 'record gains' that had not happened yet.
QP!
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Right, once again you make claims you won't back up and tell others too.
that is not how it works generally Tinker despite me finding one article that shows the flaw in that WH press release.
Let me explain why.
Me pulling a Tinker : Biden has the best overall Presidency of all other presidents if you consider all factors. Tinker prove me wrong.
Tinker : Ok here is A, B, E, F that all are not great Biden
Me : Ya well i was not using those.he is best in other areas but i am not going to name any of them look them up.
Tinker : ok lets look at G, I, K, L
Me : Nope, not talking about those either. It is other areas he is best over all and i am not going to name them
Tinker : if you won't name where he is best how can we validate if you are only going to say the areas i point out are not the ones you are referring to
Me : EXACTLY.
Did i pull a perfect Tinker above? Full of claims he will never evidence and cannot prove!
The Razzy
Now let’s see, the Razzy polls by calling land lined phones, and only calls the phone number once. Now guess what segment of the population has the greatest percentage of land lined phones, and, who answer the phone regularly? And where would you say the majority of those phone owners call on the political spectrum?
And by the way, the only historical ranking of Biden by historians so far was done by Siena polling, and currently he comes in at 19th (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States), Trump falls into the forties. Infrastructure success, something every President since JFK has been trying to accomplish, alone ranks him in the top half
Trump was impeached twice and saved by the Reds in the Senate. He incited an insurrection. He is rated lowest for moral authority. He is at the bottom for administration skills. He is no 32 in public persuasion. All his court cases since that rating will drop him lower.
Trump was terrible at handling the Covid problem. He drove a wedge between America and our long-term allies. He tries to get Russia into the Big 7. He was trying to wreck NATO.
He also had the worst turnover in the admin of all time. The guys he fired or had quit, told what a dumb shit Trump is.
Trump was terrible at handling the Covid problem. He drove a wedge between America and our long-term allies. He tries to get Russia into the Big 7. He was trying to wreck NATO.
He also had the worst turnover in the admin of all time. The guys he fired or had quit, told what a dumb shit Trump is.
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Tinkerpeach
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I provided you the proof, now it's up to you to disprove it.
i am not going to sit here all day providing you links just to have you say you don't like them.
If you want to challenge it then go ahead but I notice you aren't.
Because you can't.
I did my part here.
If you have different numbers then provide your link.