A Perfect Metaphor

ExpressLane said:
BTW I know MD. who is a nurse anesthetist but is not a anesthesiologist. He has a anesthesia group that includes Anesthesiologists and CRNAs.

BTW is Primavera English?
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They do have anesthesiologists in England, Expressweenie.

An anaesthesiologist is a medical doctor specially trained to administer anaesthesia to patients before and after various medical procedures and surgery. Anaesthesiologists often work in the National Health Service (NHS) hospitals or private hospitals. These doctors typically complete extensive general, medical and specialised training before they begin their work in the field."

https://uk.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/how-to-become-an-anaesthesiologist

VS.

"To become a nurse anesthetist, you must be certified and have completed a master’s degree program. However, many nurses start their career with a BSN, a four-year program that combines classroom learning with clinical experience. Upon graduation, you must pass the National Council Licensing Examination to become licensed. A nurse anesthetist can also become a Registered Nurse Practitioner (RN)."

https://nvfaq.com/how-much-do-nurse-anesthetist-make-in-england/
 
christiefan915 said:
They do have anesthesiologists in England, Expressweenie.

[FONT=&]An anaesthesiologist is a medical doctor specially trained to administer anaesthesia to patients before and after various medical procedures and surgery. Anaesthesiologists often work in the National Health Service (NHS) hospitals or private hospitals. These doctors typically complete extensive general, medical and specialised training before they begin their work in the field."

[/FONT]https://uk.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/how-to-become-an-anaesthesiologist

VS.

[FONT=&]"To become a nurse anesthetist, you must be certified and have completed a master’s degree program. However, many nurses start their career with a BSN, a four-year program that combines classroom learning with clinical experience. Upon graduation, you must pass the National Council Licensing Examination to become licensed. A nurse anesthetist can also become a Registered Nurse Practitioner (RN)."





[/FONT]https://nvfaq.com/how-much-do-nurse-anesthetist-make-in-england/
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And what exactly do they call their anesthesiologists in England sweetie?

naesthetists are specialist doctors who are responsible for providing anaesthesia to patients for operations and procedures. In addition anaesthetists have a range of practice which extends beyond anaesthesia for surgery to include pain management and intensive care.

Anaesthetists form the largest specialty group of doctors in NHS hospitals. They are doctors who have chosen after qualifying to undertake postgraduate specialist training of at least seven years in anaesthesia, intensive care medicine and pain management.

Most consultant anaesthetists have developed subspecialist interests in a particular area of surgical practice, or in pain management or critical care. In the Trust there are also a number of anaesthetists in training who are supervised by consultants. The standards of training in the UK are high and exacting.
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https://www.ouh.nhs.uk/services/departments/anaesthetics/anaesthetist.aspx

AGAIN all anesthesiologists are anesthetists not all anesthetists are anesthesiologists. See how that works?
 
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ExpressLane said:
He is already rich. But hey that didn't stop Nancy from bellying up to the hog trough.
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Nancy isn't running against Oz, EW. Here's an FYI for you.

"[Oz]has made a fortune from TV—$9.3 million in pretax earnings last year alone, according to a government financial disclosure. He also raked in just under $1 million last year for speeches and appearances for the likes of Warner Bros. and the American Pistachio Growers Association, as well as from royalties for a medical device he patented with colleagues at Columbia University, where he was a professor of surgery.

But much of Oz’s fortune, not to mention his ties to Pennsylvania, come from a different source: His wife’s wealthy family. Her grandfather cofounded Asplundh Tree Expert with his two brothers in 1928. With $4.7 billion in revenue, Asplundh is now the 98th biggest private company in America and the fifth largest in Pennsylvania, with more than 33,000 employees. The 93-year-old company, which trims trees for electric utilities, municipalities and others, is run by the third generation of Asplundhs and owned by nearly 200 family members – who are collectively worth at least $3 billion."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattdu...thiest-clans-in-pennsylvania/?sh=3db5f05570ec
 
ExpressLane said:
And what exactly do they call their anesthesiologists in England sweetie?

naesthetists are specialist doctors who are responsible for providing anaesthesia to patients for operations and procedures. In addition anaesthetists have a range of practice which extends beyond anaesthesia for surgery to include pain management and intensive care.

https://www.ouh.nhs.uk/services/departments/anaesthetics/anaesthetist.aspx

AGAIN all anesthesiologists are anesthetists not all anesthetists are anesthesiologists. See how that works?
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Prolly not.

Moreover, the anesthesiologists rarely administer, the nurses do the actual work but they are supervised by the docs. The docs will step in when things go sideways.
 
christiefan915 said:
If that were true he'd be an anesthesiologist, not an anesthetist.
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Anaesthetists are specialist doctors who are responsible for providing anaesthesia to patients for operations and procedures. In addition anaesthetists have a range of practice which extends beyond anaesthesia for surgery to include pain management and intensive care.

Anaesthetists form the largest specialty group of doctors in NHS hospitals. They are doctors who have chosen after qualifying to undertake postgraduate specialist training of at least seven years in anaesthesia, intensive care medicine and pain management.

Most consultant anaesthetists have developed subspecialist interests in a particular area of surgical practice, or in pain management or critical care. In the Trust there are also a number of anaesthetists in training who are supervised by consultants. The standards of training in the UK are high and exacting.
https://www.ouh.nhs.uk/services/departments/anaesthetics/anaesthetist.aspx
 
Primavera said:
Anaesthetists are specialist doctors who are responsible for providing anaesthesia to patients for operations and procedures. In addition anaesthetists have a range of practice which extends beyond anaesthesia for surgery to include pain management and intensive care.

Anaesthetists form the largest specialty group of doctors in NHS hospitals. They are doctors who have chosen after qualifying to undertake postgraduate specialist training of at least seven years in anaesthesia, intensive care medicine and pain management.

Most consultant anaesthetists have developed subspecialist interests in a particular area of surgical practice, or in pain management or critical care. In the Trust there are also a number of anaesthetists in training who are supervised by consultants. The standards of training in the UK are high and exacting.
https://www.ouh.nhs.uk/services/departments/anaesthetics/anaesthetist.aspx
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Yeah here is a pro tip for Christie. Never argue with an anesthesiologist about anesthesia terms.

 
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