Americans Are Mistaken About Who Gets Welfare

Bourbon

In Yo Face!
No shit sherlock ... Perception based on race . . . :rolleyes:

. . . the word is often loaded with racial meaning. As a new HuffPost/YouGov survey shows, much of the public has a distorted view of which groups receive the bulk of assistance from government programs. Fifty-nine percent of Americans say either that most welfare recipients are black, or that welfare recipiency is about the same among black and white people.

The numbers reflect a significant overestimation of the number of black Americans benefiting from the largest programs. Medicaid had more than 70 million beneficiaries in 2016, of whom 43 percent were white, 18 percent black, and 30 percent Hispanic. Of 43 million food stamp recipients that year, 36.2 percent were white, 25.6 percent black, 17.2 percent Hispanic and 15.5 percent unknown. (Food stamps are formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.)

In one sense, HuffPost’s survey asked an abstract question: The federal government doesn’t run a program that is actually called “welfare.” The word can describe any instance of the government helping people or businesses, though it’s most commonly used to describe programs that benefit the poor.

These days, to Republican lawmakers, welfare means Medicaid, food stamps and the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. Paul Ryan and hardline conservatives in the House of Representatives have said they want to make changes to those three programs this year under the banner of welfare reform.

Historically, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families is probably the program that has most frequently been called welfare, as it was created in the famous “welfare reform” of 1996. As a result of that reform, the program today is much smaller than its predecessor, Aid to Families with Dependent Children, and it only served 2.7 million people in 2016. Of those, 36.9 percent were Hispanic, 27.6 percent white, and 29.1 percent black ― meaning that if they had this particular program in mind, HuffPost’s survey respondents who said the number of white and black beneficiaries are “about the same” were basically right.

Survey respondents’ estimation of who receives welfare tracked closely to their estimation of who gets food stamps. Nearly two-thirds of poll respondents said the program’s recipients are mostly black or that there are as many black Americans as white Americans receiving benefits. Only 21 percent correctly said there are more white than black food stamp recipients.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...0cde4b0d3df1d13f60b?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


Let just ignore the facts and move to the good old standby of percentages
:laugh:
 
not sure anyone is arguing, politically or economically that the problem is one race or the other, the problem itself is the issue

but you wouldn't know that, this is all above your ability to understand isn't it? so sad.
you need to interject race into your argument because that's all you have.

So you're real intent of the thread is Trump is racist, Trump supporters are racist.

problem is how do you get from there to here.

you're a goofball dude
 
not sure anyone is arguing, politically or economically that the problem is one race or the other, the problem itself is the issue

but you wouldn't know that, this is all above your ability to understand isn't it? so sad.
you need to interject race into your argument because that's all you have

Did you just scotch Bourbon's argument?
 
No shit sherlock ... Perception based on race . . . :rolleyes:

. . . the word is often loaded with racial meaning. As a new HuffPost/YouGov survey shows, much of the public has a distorted view of which groups receive the bulk of assistance from government programs. Fifty-nine percent of Americans say either that most welfare recipients are black, or that welfare recipiency is about the same among black and white people.

The numbers reflect a significant overestimation of the number of black Americans benefiting from the largest programs. Medicaid had more than 70 million beneficiaries in 2016, of whom 43 percent were white, 18 percent black, and 30 percent Hispanic. Of 43 million food stamp recipients that year, 36.2 percent were white, 25.6 percent black, 17.2 percent Hispanic and 15.5 percent unknown. (Food stamps are formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.)

In one sense, HuffPost’s survey asked an abstract question: The federal government doesn’t run a program that is actually called “welfare.” The word can describe any instance of the government helping people or businesses, though it’s most commonly used to describe programs that benefit the poor.

These days, to Republican lawmakers, welfare means Medicaid, food stamps and the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. Paul Ryan and hardline conservatives in the House of Representatives have said they want to make changes to those three programs this year under the banner of welfare reform.

Historically, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families is probably the program that has most frequently been called welfare, as it was created in the famous “welfare reform” of 1996. As a result of that reform, the program today is much smaller than its predecessor, Aid to Families with Dependent Children, and it only served 2.7 million people in 2016. Of those, 36.9 percent were Hispanic, 27.6 percent white, and 29.1 percent black ― meaning that if they had this particular program in mind, HuffPost’s survey respondents who said the number of white and black beneficiaries are “about the same” were basically right.

Survey respondents’ estimation of who receives welfare tracked closely to their estimation of who gets food stamps. Nearly two-thirds of poll respondents said the program’s recipients are mostly black or that there are as many black Americans as white Americans receiving benefits. Only 21 percent correctly said there are more white than black food stamp recipients.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...0cde4b0d3df1d13f60b?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


Let just ignore the facts and move to the good old standby of percentages
:laugh:

yeap near the levels of just population percents
 
not sure anyone is arguing, politically or economically that the problem is one race or the other, the problem itself is the issue

but you wouldn't know that, this is all above your ability to understand isn't it? so sad.
you need to interject race into your argument because that's all you have.

So you're real intent of the thread is Trump is racist, Trump supporters are racist.

problem is how do you get from there to here.

you're a goofball dude

hahahaghahahahahahahaghaghaghaghahahahahahahahahahahahaghaghag


why do you racist hate being racists

if you hate racist stop being one
 
hahahaghahahahahahahaghaghaghaghahahahahahahahahahahahaghaghag why do you racist hate being racists

if you hate racist stop being one

Yes, you're a hag.

You're also a rayciss.

These are your posts:

I spit in the face of the black guy.

Obama was nothing more than another black failure in a government job and another black family in government housing. Stupid nigger.

If you're black and you vote democrat, then you're a "nigger". If you're white and you vote democrat, then you're "white trash". If you're Asian and you vote democrat, then you're a "zipper head". If you're Hispanic and you vote democrat, then you're a "wetback".

We don't let a rayciss like you define raycism, hag.
 
No shit sherlock ... Perception based on race . . . :rolleyes:

. . . the word is often loaded with racial meaning. As a new HuffPost/YouGov survey shows, much of the public has a distorted view of which groups receive the bulk of assistance from government programs. Fifty-nine percent of Americans say either that most welfare recipients are black, or that welfare recipiency is about the same among black and white people.

The numbers reflect a significant overestimation of the number of black Americans benefiting from the largest programs. Medicaid had more than 70 million beneficiaries in 2016, of whom 43 percent were white, 18 percent black, and 30 percent Hispanic. Of 43 million food stamp recipients that year, 36.2 percent were white, 25.6 percent black, 17.2 percent Hispanic and 15.5 percent unknown. (Food stamps are formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.)

In one sense, HuffPost’s survey asked an abstract question: The federal government doesn’t run a program that is actually called “welfare.” The word can describe any instance of the government helping people or businesses, though it’s most commonly used to describe programs that benefit the poor.

These days, to Republican lawmakers, welfare means Medicaid, food stamps and the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. Paul Ryan and hardline conservatives in the House of Representatives have said they want to make changes to those three programs this year under the banner of welfare reform.

Historically, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families is probably the program that has most frequently been called welfare, as it was created in the famous “welfare reform” of 1996. As a result of that reform, the program today is much smaller than its predecessor, Aid to Families with Dependent Children, and it only served 2.7 million people in 2016. Of those, 36.9 percent were Hispanic, 27.6 percent white, and 29.1 percent black ― meaning that if they had this particular program in mind, HuffPost’s survey respondents who said the number of white and black beneficiaries are “about the same” were basically right.

Survey respondents’ estimation of who receives welfare tracked closely to their estimation of who gets food stamps. Nearly two-thirds of poll respondents said the program’s recipients are mostly black or that there are as many black Americans as white Americans receiving benefits. Only 21 percent correctly said there are more white than black food stamp recipients.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...0cde4b0d3df1d13f60b?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


Let just ignore the facts and move to the good old standby of percentages
:laugh:

These figures are worthless if they are not compared to and accompanied with the data that shows what percent of the entire population each group is.
 
These figures are worthless if they are not compared to and accompanied with the data that shows what percent of the entire population each group is.

New it was coming ...

So ... what percentage of Sexual Assaults are performed by Hispanics compared to Whites?
 
No shit sherlock ... Perception based on race . . . :rolleyes:

. . . the word is often loaded with racial meaning. As a new HuffPost/YouGov survey shows, much of the public has a distorted view of which groups receive the bulk of assistance from government programs. Fifty-nine percent of Americans say either that most welfare recipients are black, or that welfare recipiency is about the same among black and white people.

The numbers reflect a significant overestimation of the number of black Americans benefiting from the largest programs. Medicaid had more than 70 million beneficiaries in 2016, of whom 43 percent were white, 18 percent black, and 30 percent Hispanic. Of 43 million food stamp recipients that year, 36.2 percent were white, 25.6 percent black, 17.2 percent Hispanic and 15.5 percent unknown. (Food stamps are formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.)

In one sense, HuffPost’s survey asked an abstract question: The federal government doesn’t run a program that is actually called “welfare.” The word can describe any instance of the government helping people or businesses, though it’s most commonly used to describe programs that benefit the poor.

These days, to Republican lawmakers, welfare means Medicaid, food stamps and the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. Paul Ryan and hardline conservatives in the House of Representatives have said they want to make changes to those three programs this year under the banner of welfare reform.

Historically, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families is probably the program that has most frequently been called welfare, as it was created in the famous “welfare reform” of 1996. As a result of that reform, the program today is much smaller than its predecessor, Aid to Families with Dependent Children, and it only served 2.7 million people in 2016. Of those, 36.9 percent were Hispanic, 27.6 percent white, and 29.1 percent black ― meaning that if they had this particular program in mind, HuffPost’s survey respondents who said the number of white and black beneficiaries are “about the same” were basically right.

Survey respondents’ estimation of who receives welfare tracked closely to their estimation of who gets food stamps. Nearly two-thirds of poll respondents said the program’s recipients are mostly black or that there are as many black Americans as white Americans receiving benefits. Only 21 percent correctly said there are more white than black food stamp recipients.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...0cde4b0d3df1d13f60b?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


Let just ignore the facts and move to the good old standby of percentages
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Do I need to point out that you're not taken in account proportionality?

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Do I need to point out that you're not taken in account proportionality?

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The cost to Welfare to the Government doesn't fluctuate based on Racial Group, it's paid out by the "INDIVIDUAL", not by Group Percentage.

:cool: Nice try ...
 
The cost to Welfare to the Government doesn't fluctuate based on Racial Group, it's paid out by the "INDIVIDUAL", not by Group Percentage.

:cool: Nice try ...
So when I tell you that nearly 50% of all homicides are by black men, who comprise around 7% of the US population, what do you say to that?

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No shit sherlock ... Perception based on race . . . :rolleyes:

. . . the word is often loaded with racial meaning. As a new HuffPost/YouGov survey shows, much of the public has a distorted view of which groups receive the bulk of assistance from government programs. Fifty-nine percent of Americans say either that most welfare recipients are black, or that welfare recipiency is about the same among black and white people.

The numbers reflect a significant overestimation of the number of black Americans benefiting from the largest programs. Medicaid had more than 70 million beneficiaries in 2016, of whom 43 percent were white, 18 percent black, and 30 percent Hispanic. Of 43 million food stamp recipients that year, 36.2 percent were white, 25.6 percent black, 17.2 percent Hispanic and 15.5 percent unknown. (Food stamps are formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.)

In one sense, HuffPost’s survey asked an abstract question: The federal government doesn’t run a program that is actually called “welfare.” The word can describe any instance of the government helping people or businesses, though it’s most commonly used to describe programs that benefit the poor.

These days, to Republican lawmakers, welfare means Medicaid, food stamps and the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program. Paul Ryan and hardline conservatives in the House of Representatives have said they want to make changes to those three programs this year under the banner of welfare reform.

Historically, Temporary Assistance for Needy Families is probably the program that has most frequently been called welfare, as it was created in the famous “welfare reform” of 1996. As a result of that reform, the program today is much smaller than its predecessor, Aid to Families with Dependent Children, and it only served 2.7 million people in 2016. Of those, 36.9 percent were Hispanic, 27.6 percent white, and 29.1 percent black ― meaning that if they had this particular program in mind, HuffPost’s survey respondents who said the number of white and black beneficiaries are “about the same” were basically right.

Survey respondents’ estimation of who receives welfare tracked closely to their estimation of who gets food stamps. Nearly two-thirds of poll respondents said the program’s recipients are mostly black or that there are as many black Americans as white Americans receiving benefits. Only 21 percent correctly said there are more white than black food stamp recipients.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...0cde4b0d3df1d13f60b?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009


Let just ignore the facts and move to the good old standby of percentages
:laugh:

Let's run a few calculations using the numbers from YOUR source.

Of the 43 million on food stamps, 25.6% or just over 11 million are black. Blacks make up 12.5% or 40.6 million of the 325 million total population. 11 million of a 40.6 million black population means 27.1% or approximately 1 in every 3 1/2 blacks uses food stamps.

Of the 43 million on food stamps, 36.2% or 15.6 million are white. Whites make up 70% or 227.5 million of the 325 million total population. 15.6 million of a 227.5 million white population means 6.9% or only approximately 1 in every 14 1/2 whites uses food stamps.

Line up 100 blacks, 100 whites, and start counting. By the time you get to the first white, statistically, that uses food stamps, FOUR blacks would have already been counted.

To put it in perspective, if there were as many blacks as there were whites in the country, the total number of blacks on food stamps would be between 55 and 60 million blacks using food stamps, a number greater than the current total black population.

Unless you compare based on percentages, you ignore the fact.
 
The cost to Welfare to the Government doesn't fluctuate based on Racial Group, it's paid out by the "INDIVIDUAL", not by Group Percentage.

:cool: Nice try ...

The the individual blacks that use it on a proportion more than 2x higher than their proportion of society to stop using as much and the costs will go down.
 
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