As we attempt to re-Industrialize America, What Manufacturing do we WANT and are Able to do?

A very serious, and important question.


So the point of the Trump2 Tariffs is to re-balance the international trade playing field, and begin to re-industrialize America, by getting factories going to produce products which we have the raw material, skills, and facilities to make in enough abundance and quality, to make not just what we need for our own use, but also to sell internationally.


We seem to be lacking in Rare-Earth-Metals, which are used in the production of everything from strong permanent magnets, to microchips, to laser diodes. So we seek to buy those materials from foreign sources, such as Ukraine, Iran, Indonesia and the Congo...


Well, what Industries or raw mat do we have, that other nations need, that we can build factories and develop a trained, skilled work force to produce specifically for the purpose international trade?


A few examples: EV cars and trucks, high tech non-lithium batteries, solar cells, animal feed-stocks, Laser Diodes, semi-conductor chips, high tech carbon fiber embedded plastics, food safe stainless steel for cookware, Medications, Paper, Steel, Aluminum, refrigeration compressors, farm produced low pollution, non-toxic fish...


What does America have the inherent raw materials, expertise, space, facilities, and expected foreign markets, to build-up as American Produced products for the world-stage.


What are we good at, have the raw materials, for, and is an under-served market, that we should be pursuing as our contribution to the Global Trade exchange?


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Given his insane tariffs on Vietnam apparently he wants us all working on making socks and shoes and other clothing.
 
Have you seen the price of horse shoes lately?

Above all, we need more blacksmiths ASAP.


A sedan with a 1000kg lithium-ion battery needs a new battery every 18months, which costs around $20K, and remediating the toxic goo leaking hulk takes enough electricity equivalent in gasoline to run the same size gasoline sedan for 10 years and add to that 50,000 gallons of fresh water.


We may not need horse shoes, but we badly need Liquid-Aire energy storage systems for EVs. Or flywheels. Or Capateries. Or Atmo-CO2 Synthetic Gasoline. Or some other new energy storage tech.

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I'm not sure he quite understands either that food goods like bananas and coffee cannot be grown at scale in America at large enough numbers to meet demand, We simply don't have the climate for it in enough of the US to do so.
 
A sedan with a 1000kg lithium-ion battery needs a new battery every 18months, which costs around $20K, and remediating the toxic goo leaking hulk takes enough electricity equivalent in gasoline to run the sedan for 10 years and 50,000 gallons of fresh water.


We may not need horse shoes, but we badly need Liquid-Aire energy storage systems for EVs.

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Every 18 months? Where are you getting that absurd stat from?
 

These American industries stand to benefit from Trump’s tariffs

Shrimpers and shrimp associations hailed the tariffs as a critical lifeline for an industry that has been battered by foreign competition.

Roughly 96% of all the shrimp eaten in America is imported from countries such as India, Indonesia and Ecuador, as the cost of raising shrimp in a pond overseas is considerably cheaper than outfitting a shrimp boat with paid workers, fuel and other necessities in the U.S.

The cheaper imports had faced no import tariffs, undercutting the U.S. shrimp industry. As a result, U.S. shrimpers have lost nearly 50% of the market value and forced many shrimping businesses to close, according to data from the Southern Shrimp Alliance.

American beer companies such as Anheuser-Busch could benefit from the tariffs imposed on beers imported from Mexico, Canada and Germany. If the price of imported beers increases, more Americans may switch to less expensive American brands.

Anheuser-Busch, which makes Budweiser and Michelob, has more than 100 brewing facilities across 24 states and buys more than $700 million in ingredients from American farmers each year, according to the company.

Companies with strong U.S.-based production facilities such as heavy machine manufacturers Caterpillar Inc. and John Deere are expected to see a competitive advantage as higher import costs make American-made goods more attractive.

Caterpillar CEO Jim Umpleby told investors during an earnings call that his company is well-positioned to withstand the tariffs because most of its manufacturing is in the U.S.

“Our largest manufacturing presence is in the United States and we are a net exporter outside of the U.S. That positions us pretty well against many of the companies out there,” he said.

The company is the largest U.S. equipment manufacturer in the U.S. with 60 primary manufacturing locations scattered across 25 states.

Meanwhile, John Deere said more than 75% of the equipment it sells is made in the U.S. and it exports more equipment from America than it imports.

America’s steel and aluminum companies have long argued that foreign rivals underprice them because they benefit from subsidies and other support from their governments. They say tariffs will raise prices, driving consumers to American products.

Steel and aluminum were not part of Mr. Trump’s reciprocal tariffs announced Tuesday because last month he levied a 25% tariff across the board on the products.


 
A very serious, and important question.


So the point of the Trump2 Tariffs is to re-balance the international trade playing field, and begin to re-industrialize America, by getting factories going to produce products which we have the raw material, skills, and facilities to make in enough abundance and quality, to make not just what we need for our own use, but also to sell internationally.


We seem to be lacking in Rare-Earth-Metals, which are used in the production of everything from strong permanent magnets, to microchips, to laser diodes. So we seek to buy those materials from foreign sources, such as Ukraine, Iran, Indonesia and the Congo...


Well, what Industries or raw mat do we have, that other nations need, that we can build factories and develop a trained, skilled work force to produce specifically for the purpose international trade?


A few examples: EV cars and trucks, high tech non-lithium batteries, solar cells, animal feed-stocks, Laser Diodes, semi-conductor chips, high tech carbon fiber embedded plastics, food safe stainless steel for cookware, Medications, Paper, Steel, Aluminum, refrigeration compressors, farm produced low pollution, non-toxic fish...


What does America have the inherent raw materials, expertise, space, facilities, and expected foreign markets, to build-up as American Produced products for the world-stage.


What are we good at, have the raw materials, for, and is an under-served market, that we should be pursuing as our contribution to the Global Trade exchange?


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You would look good turning a wrench for $7/hour and no health benefits. :thup:
 
Companies aren't going to invest capital in reindustrializing America unless they are certain the tariffs are permanent and staying in place. Trump himself said he is willing to negotiate tariffs. Trump's message board minions say the tariffs are just a negotiating gimmick. That telegraphs to businesses these tariffs are just temporary and negotiable.
You never seem to tire from being wrong and looking like a moron.

UAE commits to $1.4 trillion US investment, White House says


Investment commitments in U.S. nears $3 trillion since Trump took office

 
"The President wants you and your family to leave your house and live in the woods."

"Mr. Trump said that?"

"Yes, he said it was for the best."

"Well, all right then."
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A sedan with a 1000kg lithium-ion battery needs a new battery every 18months, which costs around $20K, and remediating the toxic goo leaking hulk takes enough electricity equivalent in gasoline to run the sedan for 10 years and 50,000 gallons of fresh water.


We may not need horse shoes, but we badly need Liquid-Aire energy storage systems for EVs.

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That is no longer true, batteries these days will last 10-20 years.

 
I did so for three years, working on a steel erection crew in the 1980s. Then I get tech trained, and start repairing avionics.


I also picked fruit and vegetables for several years.

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You'll be working for the same pay and benefits then. Good for you. :thup:
 
I'm not sure he quite understands either that food goods like bananas and coffee cannot be grown at scale in America at large enough numbers to meet demand, We simply don't have the climate for it in enough of the US to do so.
I'm not sure you get that we will still get imports. It's not like nothing will be coming into the country.

Nations that grow bananas, coffee and other goods not seen here will probably bring their tariffs down to zero as Vietnam has announced. DUH!
 
That is no longer true, batteries these days will last 10-20 years.


No they won't. That's a lie.


One of the way you can tell it is a lie, is that any battery over 3 years old is dead.


Another way you can tell it is a lie, the latest model of Lithium Batteries haven't been in service for more than a year, so how could they know what will happen with them in 20 years?


I worked in that industry. I've run the tests of accelerated use discharge and recharge cycles. The MTBF is 18 months.


Even the new sodium batteries the Japanese are working on, are only expected to have a 32 month MTBF.

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