Biden Says He Did Not Tell DOJ to Charge Trump

ptif219 said:
That they can prove espionage
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They proved it in the indictment. There are witnesses to that crime and his retention of defense material is not disputed. He has admitted to the crime. That’s the point. You didn’t read it so your opinion becomes irrelevant.
 
ptif219 said:
The indictment is irrelevant to the protections under the law. Trump is innocent until proven guilty. Your hate for Trump does not change that
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Agreed.


Do you agree then that Biden is innocent?
 
Concart said:
They proved it in the indictment. There are witnesses to that crime and his retention of defense material is not disputed. He has admitted to the crime. That’s the point. You didn’t read it so your opinion becomes irrelevant.
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No they made accusation they showed no proof
 
ptif219 said:
It could not fall under the espionage act if it was not delivered to another person
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Classified documents were delivered to another person so some of the charges do fall under the espionage act. You really have no idea of the gravity and evidence against trump. Maybe you should try another news source other than FOX?

Republicans privately acknowledge Trump’s legal woes are serious this time
The indictment alleges that Trump presented government secrets to an author, a publisher and an employee of his political action committee. It also says Trump admitted to people that the documents were still classified.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-legal-woes-are-serious-this-time/ar-AA1cwVYK
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"If we nominate Trump we're going to lose, He hasn't won anything since 2016. I want to win, and if we nominate Trump we're going to lose," Paul Ryan said, noting that Republicans have been on a losing streak since Trump took office: We lost the House in '18. We lost the presidency in '20. We've lost the Senate. We would have won the Senate this time in '22 had it not been for Trump and his nominees in some of our key primary elections, and my guess is we probably would've picked up 10 to 15 seats in the House if it weren't for his involvement."

Paul Ryan has no problem claiming Trump is a loser, he isn't running for anything. The rest of them, (minus Christie), are counting on the MAGA base and cannot afford to alienate them by telling the truth that Trump is a dead end.
 
ptif219 said:
The Democrats do not care about a conviction they just want tp keep him out of the primaries
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Actually I don't think it matters if he is in the primary. if he is forced out of the race his juvenile MAGA base will be so pissed off that they won't vote or will still write his name on their ballot just out of their demented principles and the republican will lose. If he is in the primary and is the nominee he will get no democrats, damn few independents and many republicans have already said they would never vote for him. He will be crushed. By this time next year he will be spending more time in courts than he will be campaigning and that is too much baggage. Not all republicans are as stupid as you.
 
Concart said:
They proved it in the indictment. There are witnesses to that crime and his retention of defense material is not disputed. He has admitted to the crime. That’s the point. You didn’t read it so your opinion becomes irrelevant.
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And you know that crowd watches only FOX who isn't going to broadcast this evidence so they have no clue it exists and don't want to see it. They just like denying it.
 
Port Tack said:
Stand by asshole, they will be laying it all out for you soon. You best start putting together your excuses for him now.
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Here's the problem with them posting excuses. They look galactically stupid when Trump blows through their excuses. Like all the idiots that claimed Trump had declassified the documents. Turns out he isn't going with that any more, because the government can prove he didn't. Some really stupid pendejo :) posted 'HE DECLASSIFIED THEM' over and over and over.

Ooops.
 
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