Boeing: Europe joins wave of countries grounding the 737 Max
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Why are you flying planes anyway, that marks you down as a massive hypocrite surely?
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Willy Walsh is an ex-737 pilot so his endorsement is a massive boost to the beleaguered Boeing company.
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moon
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I'm a hypocrite for not wanting to use iffy aircraft ?
moon
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US regulator cites new flaw on grounded Boeing 737 MAX
Fixing the problem will further delay the plane's return to the skies after two deadly crashes, sources say.
The US Federal Aviation Administration identified a new risk that Boeing must address on its beleaguered 737 MAX aircraft before the grounded jet can return to service.
The risk was discovered during a simulator test last week and it is not yet clear if the issue can be addressed with a software upgrade, or will require a more complex hardware fix, sources with knowledge of the matter said on Wednesday.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...-grounded-boeing-737-max-190627064850927.html
Anybody think that Boing is not going to survive this ?
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You know exactly what I mean, stop trying to be cute!!
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No, they'll take a hit in the short term but that's it. People have very short memories especially in the US.
moon
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You think ? ' Fly Boing ' ain't much of a motto, is it.
Into the Night
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They were optional extras. The plane is safe without them. The crashes occurred with inexperienced pilots that didn't recognize the failure.
The problem was the use of a single critical sensor (the same problem hit Toyota once!). The software has been corrected to use both sensors, and optional features are now standard equipment, and pilot retraining to recognize a failure and properly handle it is underway.
The plane was safe to fly. It will be even safer to fly by autumn.
Into the Night
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Into the Night
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Their safety record is sure a lot better than Airbus.
They never did fix that fin, you know. They just told pilots to not kick the rudder so hard.
moon
Satire for Sanity
This is actually a serious discussion concerning the deaths of hundreds of people due to a flaw which Boing has already apologized for.
In short- you are talking out of your ass.
Into the Night
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Insult fallacy. You are not having a serious discussion about anything.
Boeing apologized for it, true. They have fixed it. Flight testing is occurring as we speak. Part of that is pilot retraining to better recognize a failure of the system. Airlines will probably start using the aircraft again around autumn.
The plane was safe to fly. It will be even safer to fly by autumn.
moon
Satire for Sanity
You're clearly a repetitious idiot.
The plane was NOT safe. It crashed. Twice. Many hundreds of people are dead. You are clearly a repetitious idiot.
They're trying to find some idiots to test it taxiing. Haw, haw............haw.
In future I think that the term ' trollshit' ought to cover anything you post.
Into the Night
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Inversion fallacy.
Yes it is.
Due to pilot error. They failed to recognize the autopilot error and didn't shut off the autopilot. Both crashes were foreign aircraft with badly trained pilots.
Happens a lot with these airlines. Personally, I don't feel safe flying them on any equipment.
Inversion fallacy.
No, it's flying. It's undergoing intensive flight testing with induced failures to test the system's response.
Bulverism fallacy.
moon
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Call me a cynic- but this smacks of a Boing smokescreen to try to wriggle out of the MASSIVE suits it faces.
Anything to cut costs? Boeing accused of outsourcing 737 MAX software at $9 an hour
Boeing has been partially outsourcing software development to low-paid subcontractors to save costs, Bloomberg has learned, suggesting that inadequate quality control practices may have contributed to fatal 737 MAX crashes.
Newly graduated programmers employed by third-party software developers – including Indian HCL Technologies Ltd and Cyient Ltd – were making as little as $9 an hour, roughly four times less than their own experienced engineers who Boeing was actively laying off. The company reportedly outsourced flight-display software and programs for flight-test equipment. While the final code allegedly complied with their strict specifications, the efficiency of such work was below expectations, as subcontractors were pressured to avoid any major changes that could cause delay.
https://www.rt.com/news/463031-boeing-software-outsourced-costs/
Into the Night
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Well, since you just called someone that designs, builds, flies, and repair aircraft trollshit, I guess you had better stay off the airlines. It's people like me that put those things in the air.
Into the Night
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Boeing is accused of a lot of things all the time. They are sued all the time too, just like any large corporation. Nothing new there!
Frankly, most Indian programmers can out code a lot of U.S. programmers. One big exception is at Microsoft, where they neither can code anything well. Rate of pay doesn't make any difference.
The crashes were caused by pilot error, not by the software.
According to current schedule, these planes should be back in service sometime in autumn.
I understand your lack of confidence in the aircraft, especially due to the news media printing stuff they know nothing about (like usual), but the aircraft IS safe. Just avoid foreign airlines with crappy pilots.
moon
Satire for Sanity
You're way too stupid to be involved in any such commercial endeavors . Stick to your peeping-tom camera and your drone.