Boeing: Europe joins wave of countries grounding the 737 Max

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IAG CEO Explains 737 MAX Order

In mid-June at the Paris Air Show, IAG (the parent company of British Airways, Iberia, Aer Lingus, and Vueling) expressed interest in a surprising aircraft. The company signed a letter of intent to acquire 200 Boeing 737 MAXs, valued at $24 billion at list prices.

This caught many of us off guard:

The 737 MAX is grounded globally right now, and we don’t know when it will be flying again
An order for 200 planes is massive, and this seemingly came out of left field
On some level IAG seemed to be involved with Boeing here in the subtle rebranding of the plane — IAG simply referred to the plane as the 737, with no mention of the “MAX” (in the meantime Ryanair has done something similar — they’ve rebranded the 737 MAX 200 as the 737-8200)
So, what was IAG’s motivation for signing this LOI, according to CEO Willie Walsh? He says that this order was motivated by frustration with Airbus:

IAG has experienced an average of 70 day delays on their new A320neos, which has left the company frustrated
IAG wants to have a mixed narrow body fleet, so that they’re not entirely reliant on one manufacturer; I suppose that’s fair enough, when you look at what’s happening with the 737 MAX right now

https://onemileatatime.com/iag-ceo-737-max-order/

 

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Booked your next holiday flight yet, maggot ? Haw, haw...........................haw.

 

[MAGA MAN]

Put all the ' officials ' in one and send them on a round-the-world vacation.

All due to software "engineers" who should never be called engineers.

 

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All due to software "engineers" who should never be called engineers.

That's as may be- but where was the practical testing ?
An ex-Boing employee has stated that the lines were starved of funds.

 

[MAGA MAN]

That's as may be- but where was the practical testing ?
An ex-Boing employee has stated that the lines were starved of funds.

"Some guy said..." Big whoop. Software can be tested on a PC- you don't even need a full scale simulator.

 

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"Some guy said..." Big whoop. Software can be tested on a PC-

Evidently not.

 

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Evidently not.

You mean evidently wasn't, because software engineers are lazy fuckers and should never have the title "engineer", who is a person tasked number one with keeping the public safe.

 

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Booked your next holiday flight yet, maggot ? Haw, haw...........................haw.

I am flying from U-Tapao to Udon Thani tomorrow.

 

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You mean evidently wasn't, because software engineers are lazy fuckers and should never have the title "engineer", who is a person tasked number one with keeping the public safe.

I remember you going apeshit when I told you that I was a Senior Networking Engineer at T-Mobile. My son has the job title of Cloud Architect at Cisco, that must seriously boil your piss.

 

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I am flying from U-Tapao to Udon Thani tomorrow.

Going to join your parliamentarians on their vacations ? Haw, haw..........................haw.

 

[MAGA MAN]

I remember you going apeshit when I told you that I was a Senior Networking Engineer at T-Mobile. My son has the job title of Cloud Architect at Cisco, that must seriously boil your piss.

Since I am a calm, thinking person your memory of this, which I have no recollection, is obviously flawed. Just like your work I'm sure. Since a dropped call or a web page freeze is only a minor inconvenience, why should I care about what y'all do?

I, however, design structural repairs for buildings and my son provides factory support for sealing fuel tanks on commercial airliners. If we screw up even once like y'all do routinely it will be a life ending event for many if not thousands.

 

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But WE aren't! Hummm. Of course we don't have an FAA Director. The acting has been there now for 26 months. Remember when TRUMP was going to make HIS PILOT that flew his plane the head of the FAA? After everyone laughed out loud AND they found out TRUMP'S PLANE (his 2nd plane) was unregistered (so to speak) they really laughed out loud. That was one of his early announcement picks.

It might be worth noting, anyone remember the TRUMP Shuttle? It lasted about 3 YEARS before it went bellyup. It got sold off, broken up and absorbed among other airlines. He couldn't make a 'good deal' and was left with about A HUNDRED MILL. Eventually he reneged on that. It all happened about the same time as his casinos going down. He couldn't afford 2 failing enterprises at once. But Trump knows all about "airlines".


​Donald Trump’s Jet, a Regular on the Campaign Trail, Isn’t Registered to Fly

Donald J. Trump exiting his Cessna jet on Jan. 24. Records kept with the Federal Aviation Administration show that the registration on the plane lapsed on Jan. 31.CreditEric Thayer for The New York Times



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Donald J. Trump exiting his Cessna jet on Jan. 24. Records kept with the Federal Aviation Administration show that the registration on the plane lapsed on Jan. 31.CreditCreditEric Thayer for The New York Times

By Susanne Craig

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Over the past several months, Donald J. Trump has crisscrossed the country making dozens of campaign stops in places and Jackson, Miss., often in his sleek Cessna jet. There is just one hitch: The plane’s registration is expired. Records kept with the Federal Aviation Administration show the aircraft’s registration lapsed on Jan. 31. Laura J. Brown, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration, confirmed that the plane’s registration was not in good standing and said the owner had not renewed it.

[FONT=&]With few exceptions, aircraft must be registered in order to fly. Mr. Trump’s plane could be grounded for days, or even months, while the issue is sorted out. In the event of an accident, the company that insures the jet could cite the lapsed registration to decline any claims.


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Fake news. This aircraft is registered, and the current registration expires in 2022. Insurance carriers do not deny claims because an aircraft registration expired. The type certificate is the determining factor for that and it doesn't expire.

 

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Since I am a calm, thinking person your memory of this, which I have no recollection, is obviously flawed. Just like your work I'm sure. Since a dropped call or a web page freeze is only a minor inconvenience, why should I care about what y'all do?

I, however, design structural repairs for buildings and my son provides factory support for sealing fuel tanks on commercial airliners. If we screw up even once like y'all do routinely it will be a life ending event for many if not thousands.

That it would.

The MAX software bug is not in critical software. It is part of the trim system. The two aircraft crashed due to pilot error. They were both foreign pilots, notorious for their poor training. The MAX software bug was only a contributing factor. No U.S. pilot crashed due to this bug, though it occurred on U.S. flights.

 

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Trollshit.

 

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That it would.

The MAX software bug is not in critical software. It is part of the trim system. The two aircraft crashed due to pilot error. They were both foreign pilots, notorious for their poor training. The MAX software bug was only a contributing factor. No U.S. pilot crashed due to this bug, though it occurred on U.S. flights.

I agree, especially about the software being a contributing factor. The "engineers" who designed it are not real engineers and should be held personally responsible.

 

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Is it flying ? No. That's good.

 

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I agree, especially about the software being a contributing factor. The "engineers" who designed it are not real engineers and should be held personally responsible.

They are engineers. They are writing firmware, not software. They are part of the engineers that are building the system in the first place.

 

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Is it flying ? No. That's good.

Yes. It's flying. There's one NW of PAE right now on a test flight.

 

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I am flying from U-Tapao to Udon Thani tomorrow.

In U-Tapao Rayong airport now, this was the primary location for B-52s flying to bomb Hanoi, Cambodia and Laos. Pretty unimpressive at the moment but there are big plans to make it Bangkok's third international airport. As you might imagine the runway is very long at over 3500 metresto accommodate bombers with over 100 500lb bombs.

 

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Yes. It's flying. There's one NW of PAE right now on a test flight.

IAG want Boeing to start deliveries in 2022 not 2023!

The International Airlines Group would like its first Boeing 737 MAX aircraft delivered in 2022 according to CEO Willie Walsh. IAG is yet to actually order the aircraft but issued a letter of intent for 200 of the aircraft at the 2019 Paris Air Show.

https://simpleflying.com/iag-737-max-2022/