Boeing: Europe joins wave of countries grounding the 737 Max

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No it didn't. It crashed.

Bullshit, the Guidance Computer was rebooted, due to having core memory no data was lost. The hardware power interrupt fault was fixed on subsequent Apollo missions. I can understand how you find hatd to understand how mission critical real time systems work, stick to concrete beams and rebar.

 

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You have to get someone to fly them and convince passengers to board them. It is a tough sell.

maggot says they're safe. That ought to do it. Haw, haw..................................haw.

 

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Bullshit, the Guidance Computer was rebooted, due to having core memory no data was lost. The hardware power interrupt fault was fixed on subsequent Apollo missions. I can understand how you find hatd to understand how mission critical real time systems work, stick to concrete beams and rebar.

You'll never have anyone say "reboot the beam", because they are designed by real engineers, not software engineers.

 

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Boeing's internal 737 MAX messages: Employees may have misled FAA

Company communications from 2016 show the firm might not have been fully truthful with United States aviation regulator.

Revelations of troubling internal communications at Boeing suggest that the company could face significantly more pressure from regulators before the 737 MAX returns to the skies


The Boeing Company turned over instant messages exchanged between two employees in 2016 that suggest the airplane maker may have misled the United States Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) about a key safety system on the grounded 737 MAX, sources briefed on the matter told the Reuters News Agency.

The FAA confirmed on Friday that Boeing told the US government aviation regulator a day earlier about internal messages that the company had discovered "some months ago" and that characterise "certain communications with the FAA during the original certification of the 737 MAX in 2016".

https://www.aljazeera.com/ajimpact/...ges-employees-misled-faa-191018174757427.html

' That 'plane is A-merican. You get on it , boy, and shut yaw mouth ! '


Haw, haw..................................haw.

 

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Boeing expects 737 Max to fly again by New Year

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50151573


Not this one;

 

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Boeing chief to admit company made mistakes over 737 Max
Dennis Muilenburg will appear before Congress on anniversary of first of two crashes

The Boeing chief executive, Dennis Muilenburg, will admit on Tuesday that the aircraft manufacturer made mistakes, and pledge that accidents like the two 737 Max crashes that killed 346 people will not happen again.

He will appear at a congressional hearing on the anniversary of the crash of Lion Air flight 610 in Indonesia that killed 189 people. In March, after an Ethiopian Airlines 737 Max crashed, killing 157 people, the plane was grounded worldwide.

According to written testimony, Muilenburg will tell the Senate commerce committee: “We have learned and are still learning from these accidents, Mr Chairman. We know we made mistakes and got some things wrong.”

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/29/boeing-mistakes-737-max

maggot- you lied. Come out and apologize to the forum.

 

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Boeing accused of putting profit before safety by Senators

US lawmakers have accused Boeing of engaging in a "pattern of deliberate concealment" as it sought approval for its 737 Max 8 plane to fly.

The accusation came as Boeing chief executive Dennis Muilenburg was quizzed by the Senate Commerce Committee.

Senators said they had serious concerns that Boeing put profits over safety as it rushed to get clearance.

Two deadly 737 Max 8 crashes killed a total of 346 people. Mr Muilenburg admitted the firm had made "mistakes".

Senator Roger Wicker said messages between Boeing staff during certification that raised issues in the MCAS test system betrayed "a disturbing level of casualness and flippancy".

Senator Richard Blumenthal said Boeing had rushed the approval process and engaged in a "pattern of deliberate concealment".

He suggested that pilots had been misled and Boeing had, in effect, designed a 'flying coffin'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50225025

So it's looking like a case of concealment. Surely, there's jail time for that.

Hey maggot- tell us again how safe the ' Flying Coffin ' is , you wee wanking worm.

 

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The software worked fine!!

Apollo 11’s 1202 Alarms

Not long after the lunar module got into its 69 mile by 50,000 foot orbit in preparation for landing, the crew turned on their rendezvous radar to track the command-service module. This was was a safety measure. The radar tracked the CSM so it knew where to direct the lunar module in the event of an abort. The crew left the radar on in SLEW mode meaning it had to be manually positioned by an astronaut, and also meant that it wasn’t sending data to the computer.

What neither the astronauts nor the guys in Mission Control knew was that radar Coupling Data Units were flooding the Apollo Guidance Computer with counter interrupt signals. This was due to an oversight in the computer’s power supply design structure. These signals were taking up just a little bit of the computer’s processing time, and the spurious job kept running in the background, taking up space. So unbeknownst to anyone, this signal prevented vital programs associated with the landing from completing. When a new task was sent to the computer there was nowhere for it to go. The running and scheduled jobs were holding their Core Set and VAC areas.

Eventually the Executive found that there was no place to put new programs. This triggered the 1201 alarm signaling “Executive Overflow – No Core Sets” and the 1202 alarm signaling “Executive Overflow – No VAC Areas.” These in turn triggered a software reboot. All jobs were cancelled regardless of priority then started again as per their table order, quickly enough that no guidance or navigation data was lost. But it didn’t clear up the issue. The computer was still overloaded by the same spurious radar data, stopping new programs from running. In all, it triggered four 1202 alarms and one 1201 alarm.

Eventually Buzz Aldrin noticed a correlation. At the second 1202 alarm, he called down, “Same alarm, and it appears to come up when we have a 16/68 up.” The 16/68 code — Verb 16 Noun 68 — was used to display the range to the landing site and the LM’s velocity. The command in itself didn’t place a heavy load on the computer, but with the existing load that extra bit of processing power seemed to trigger the 1202 alarm. Realizing this, the solution was simple: ask Houston for that data instead of calling it up from the computer.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/v...apollo-11s-1202-alarm-explained/#.XZ_8I6alY0M

No, Discover Magazine has it wrong. He landed the craft by hand.

 

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Bullshit, the Guidance Computer was rebooted, due to having core memory no data was lost. The hardware power interrupt fault was fixed on subsequent Apollo missions. I can understand how you find hatd to understand how mission critical real time systems work, stick to concrete beams and rebar.

The computer did not have core memory. It used static RAM and a hard ROM as a boot program. It forgets everything if you turn it off except how to download the system over the radio. It did not store data.

 

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So it's looking like a case of concealment. Surely, there's jail time for that.

Hey maggot- tell us again how safe the ' Flying Coffin ' is , you wee wanking worm.

What concealment? The FAA approved the aircraft for flight! You DO realize that involves inspections and flight tests, right?

 

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The computer did not have core memory. It used static RAM and a hard ROM as a boot program. It forgets everything if you turn it off except how to download the system over the radio. It did not store data.

Oh dear, please stop now!!

http://www.righto.com/2019/01/inside-apollo-guidance-computers-core.html?m=1

 

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No, Discover Magazine has it wrong. He landed the craft by hand.

Not exactly secret info, I watched Apollo 11 on Thai tv the other night and they made great play of that. I think everybody knows that Armstrong took over control to avoid craters rocks as big as houses. That's why he landed with less than a minute's worth of fuel left.

 

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What concealment? The FAA approved the aircraft for flight! You DO realize that involves inspections and flight tests, right?

Ironically it seems that intense pressure from environmentalists and competition from Airbus played a big part in Boeing looking to install bigger more fuel efficient engines onto the existing 737-800 airframe rather than starting from scratch.

 

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Into the Night Soil;

What concealment?

 

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Up to 50 Boeing planes grounded globally after wing-related cracks discovered

Boeing has confirmed that it has grounded over 50 of its planes around the world, after wing-related cracks were discovered, while the company's CEO has admitted to making safety mistakes.
It's the US aviation giant's 737NG (Next Generation) model that is now under scrutiny. The plane is a precursor to the infamous Boeing 737 MAX, which killed 346 people in two crashes in Indonesia and Ethiopia, and has been grounded since March.

https://www.rt.com/news/472261-boeing-grounded-wing-cracks/

 

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Boeing 'doesn't understand our grief'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/business-50238141/boeing-doesn-t-understand-our-grief

 

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Up to 50 Boeing planes grounded globally after wing-related cracks discovered

Airbus has quite a few planes grounded too. The A220 for example (grounded due to cracking in the compressor vanes. The A380 still isn't fixed (inadequately designed fin spar), but it's flying with modified procedures for pilots.

Boeing has confirmed that it has grounded over 50 of its planes around the world, after wing-related cracks were discovered, while the company's CEO has admitted to making safety mistakes.

No, he hasn't. He is simply taking responsibility for the MAX problem since it happened on his watch. That's not admitting anything.

It's the US aviation giant's 737NG (Next Generation) model that is now under scrutiny.

All aircraft are under scrutiny...by pilots, by mechanics, by FAA inspectors, by the NTSB inspectors, etc.

The plane is a precursor to the infamous Boeing 737 MAX, which killed 346 people in two crashes in Indonesia and Ethiopia, and has been grounded since March.

The aircraft didn't kill them. The badly trained pilots did.

 

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Boeing 'doesn't understand our grief'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/business-50238141/boeing-doesn-t-understand-our-grief

Fake news and puff piece.

 

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Stupid troll.

 

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Airbus has quite a few planes grounded too. The A220 for example (grounded due to cracking in the compressor vanes. The A380 still isn't fixed (inadequately designed fin spar), but it's flying with modified procedures for pilots.

No, he hasn't. He is simply taking responsibility for the MAX problem since it happened on his watch. That's not admitting anything.

All aircraft are under scrutiny...by pilots, by mechanics, by FAA inspectors, by the NTSB inspectors, etc.

The aircraft didn't kill them. The badly trained pilots did.

The first officer on the Lion Air flight had only 2000 flying hours under his belt, whereas in Europe or North America you'd need at least 10,000 hours. I've flown on a 737 Max 9 from Buriram to Don Mueang airport, very smooth flight.