Can Artificial Intelligence have free will?

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

If this were true we would never expand knowledge. Even Einstein would never come up with a unique idea, we'd still be staring at magic fire created by lightening because we wouldn't be able to figure out that when certain rocks click together they'll form a spark... we weren't taught it, so we couldn't parrot it...

yes the "language net" understanding of consciousness is not accurate.

there is understanding that transcends words. we simply find the words after the fact of having an insight or intention.

 

[Into the Night]

yes.

like they say, technology is morally neutral, it just matters how it's put to use.

well the people implementing a. i. are totalitarian fascist anti-human genociders.

that's the issue.

AI is a programming technique, not an 'implementation'.
There is nothing totalitarian about using AI to filter reports for a company.
There is nothing totalitarian about using AI to build a program that plays chess well.
There is nothing totalitarian about using AI to automate Google searches, as ChatGPT does.
There is nothing totalitarian about using AI to build a speech recognition library or a language translation library.

You think, for example, the Alexa service is 'totalitarian'? No one forces you to buy Alexa devices, and Alexa itself is nothing more than speech recognition coupled with programs people wrote (called 'skills'). How well does Alexa work? Pretty well, except that it's speech recognition could use some improvements, but cannot do anything more than the skills people write for it. Like anything that anyone can write programs for, most of these 'skills' are real crap.

 

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

AI is a programming technique, not an 'implementation'.
There is nothing totalitarian about using AI to filter reports for a company.
There is nothing totalitarian about using AI to build a program that plays chess well.
There is nothing totalitarian about using AI to automate Google searches, as ChatGPT does.
There is nothing totalitarian about using AI to build a speech recognition library or a language translation library.

You think, for example, the Alexa service is 'totalitarian'? No one forces you to buy Alexa devices, and Alexa itself is nothing more than speech recognition coupled with programs people wrote (called 'skills'). How well does Alexa work? Pretty well, except that it's speech recognition could use some improvements, but cannot do anything more than the skills people write for it. Like anything that anyone can write programs for, most of these 'skills' are real crap.

if its used to make totalitarianism easier it is being used in an evil fashion.

 

[IBDaMann]

A digital computer can usually be regarded as consisting of three parts: (i) Store. (ii) Executive unit. (iii) Control.

* Where would the network card fit into all that, i.e. (i), (ii) or (iii)?
* Where would the WiFi fit into all that?
* Where would the video card fit into all that?
* Where would the power supply fit into all that?
* Where would a computer case fit into all that?
* Where would the M.2 heat sink fit into all that?

Thanks in advance.

 

[IBDaMann]

You think, for example, the Alexa service is 'totalitarian'? No one forces you to buy Alexa devices, and Alexa itself is nothing more than speech recognition coupled with programs people wrote (called 'skills').

Totally correct, within your context.

if its used to make totalitarianism easier it is being used in an evil fashion.

Totally correct, within your context.

I think you are both talking past each other to a certain extent. Alexa swaps control for convenience with the user. Alexa comes into control while the user comes into convenience. The user, however, never sees who is controlling Alexa, nor who is listening to everything Alexa hears, nor who is receiving and processing all the data Alexa sends out onto the internet. The user can see the settings he has chosen, but cannot see into Alexa to verify that his settings are what are actually in effect. Alexa can also be hacked, allowing the hacker to then control everything controlled by Alexa.

A totalitarian regime could use Alexa to advance a totalitarian agenda. A totalitarian regime could also simply use Alexa to bring convenience into their homes. As Into the Night mentioned, Alexa is just a voice recognition interface tied to a controller application ... with an internet connection.

 

[Into the Night]

if its used to make totalitarianism easier it is being used in an evil fashion.

Which is true of any program. AI not required.

 

[Into the Night]

* Where would the network card fit into all that, i.e. (i), (ii) or (iii)?
* Where would the WiFi fit into all that?
* Where would the video card fit into all that?
* Where would the power supply fit into all that?
* Where would a computer case fit into all that?
* Where would the M.2 heat sink fit into all that?

Thanks in advance.

Or:
* the fans
* the USB connectors
* the audio connectors
* the LEDS on the front of the case?
* the reset button
* the power button
* the Bluetooth network (if used)
* the web
* email
* SSL
* a programming language
* a database language
* a protocol
* the cloud
* ChatGPT
* the master oscillator
* the PCI buss
* a charger cable
* an error message

Just thought I'd add to the pile of stuff that is not the 'three parts of a computer', yet they are all parts of a computer system.

Obviously, the Wannabe Creep just has no idea what he's talking about (again). He found something on Google or Wikipedia and tries to 'talk smart' while looking dumb.

 

[Lightbringer]

Worse, most of them cannot access the web so they are simply Q&A Databases.

You're correct. They aren't web browsers, they can only look at things on the web that humans have put pointers on.

 

[Lightbringer]

AI is a programming technique, not an 'implementation'.
There is nothing totalitarian about using AI to filter reports for a company.
There is nothing totalitarian about using AI to build a program that plays chess well.
There is nothing totalitarian about using AI to automate Google searches, as ChatGPT does.
There is nothing totalitarian about using AI to build a speech recognition library or a language translation library.

You think, for example, the Alexa service is 'totalitarian'? No one forces you to buy Alexa devices, and Alexa itself is nothing more than speech recognition coupled with programs people wrote (called 'skills'). How well does Alexa work? Pretty well, except that it's speech recognition could use some improvements, but cannot do anything more than the skills people write for it. Like anything that anyone can write programs for, most of these 'skills' are real crap.

That's not what ChatGPT does. It is reliant upon human intervention.

 

[Into the Night]

Totally correct, within your context.


Totally correct, within your context.

I think you are both talking past each other to a certain extent. Alexa swaps control for convenience with the user. Alexa comes into control while the user comes into convenience. The user, however, never sees who is controlling Alexa, nor who is listening to everything Alexa hears, nor who is receiving and processing all the data Alexa sends out onto the internet. The user can see the settings he has chosen, but cannot see into Alexa to verify that his settings are what are actually in effect. Alexa can also be hacked, allowing the hacker to then control everything controlled by Alexa.

A totalitarian regime could use Alexa to advance a totalitarian agenda. A totalitarian regime could also simply use Alexa to bring convenience into their homes. As Into the Night mentioned, Alexa is just a voice recognition interface tied to a controller application ... with an internet connection.

While what you say is theoretically possible, it would mean Amazon itself would have be involved in such a break-in.
That would be financial suicide. People would leave AWS and no longer use Alexa. Such a tyrannical government taking over Amazon in that way would be pretty damn obvious.

 

[Into the Night]

You're correct. They aren't web browsers, they can only look at things on the web that humans have put pointers on.

AI is not a browser or the web.

 

[Lightbringer]

While what you say is theoretically possible, it would mean Amazon itself would have be involved in such a break-in.
That would be financial suicide. People would leave AWS and no longer use Alexa. Such a tyrannical government taking over Amazon in that way would be pretty damn obvious.

You'd like to think so wouldn't you?

 

[Into the Night]

That's not what ChatGPT does. It is reliant upon human intervention.

No, it really doesn't. It's just an automated version of Google.

 

[Lightbringer]

AI is not a browser or the web.

Akshually...AI doesn't exist.

 

[Into the Night]

You'd like to think so wouldn't you?

Irrelevant. A tyrannical government taking over Amazon would be pretty damn obvious. There is no way they can hide that kind of takeover.

 

[Lightbringer]

No, it really doesn't. It's just an automated version of Google.

You have no IT training whatsoever do you? ChatGPT can only see what it's told to see. It is told what to see by human beings "tagging" data on the Internet.

 

[Lightbringer]

Irrelevant. A tyrannical government taking over Amazon would be pretty damn obvious. There is no way they can hide that kind of takeover.

When a tyrannical government took over BlackRock was it obvious?

 

[Into the Night]

You have no IT training whatsoever do you?

Puhleeeeze. How lame.

ChatGPT can only see what it's told to see. It is told what to see by human beings "tagging" data on the Internet.

No. ChatGPT sees everything Google sees.

 

[Into the Night]

Akshually...AI doesn't exist.

Yes it does. AI is a programming technique (that seems in vogue these days).

 

[Into the Night]

When a tyrannical government took over BlackRock was it obvious?

No government owns Blackrock.