Christianity: Conservative or Socialist?

Lowaicue said:
I would doubt that. Certainly there are about 2billion 'nominal' christians. They do NOT all believe the bible is a true account of anything. Most are far more sensible. I know that America is out on a limb as far as Christianity is concerned but even if the entire American population believed the bible was the word of god, that is still only 300 million out of about 6.5 billion. I know no Catholics who would say that, no Anglicans, only USS Loony still sails that course.
One again we see that Americans, in general terms, are very easily misled. Many seem to think that America has and deserves a special place in the world and few can see how far from the truth that is.
Very little cynicism seems to exist. Commercial manipulation was refined to an art form in America and having known several of your countrymen, of various persuasions I would conclude that their view of the world is quite similar to that of most Chinese.
Strange.
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People have always believed in some form of god man reincarnated, before Jesus it was Osiris, Horus, Mithra, Thammuz, Esus, Quexalcoati

Krishna is a god man, his teachings and story older than Jesus' and his is the world's third largest religion.

Christianity is just the flavor of the moment.
 
Ice Dancer said:
Finally, someone, answers the question biblically and intelligently.
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By Dr. Brian Lee

Both the Christian Right and the Christian Left get the question of Christianity and politics wrong. Christianity is not politically conservative or politically liberal — though Christians may be either. Christianity is not political at all. It is in a sense politically agnostic. But in another sense it calls into question the basis of every earthly power, including politics.

Those looking to dig into the Bible and find a political platform are going to be sorely disappointed. It’s not there. That is for the simple reason that it is not a book about politics, but about God, and how He is saving His people through Jesus Christ. This distinguishes Christianity from Old Testament Judaism and modern day Islam, both of which contain detailed political agendas. Well-meaning Christians that want to outline a detailed “Christian” agenda of their own, however, will simply not find one.

When opponents tried to trap Jesus between his fidelity to oppressed Israel or oppressor Rome, he asked whose picture was on the coin, and taught us to render unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar (Matt 22:15-22). When on trial before Caesar, he admitted to being the King of the Jews, but in the same breath asserted “My kingdom is not of this world” (John 18:33-37).

Rest of the article here
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i wish i read this before i replied to touchyliberal's thread about jesus the socialist
 
Rana said:
People have always believed in some form of god man reincarnated, before Jesus it was Osiris, Horus, Mithra, Thammuz, Esus, Quexalcoati

Krishna is a god man, his teachings and story older than Jesus' and his is the world's third largest religion.

Christianity is just the flavor of the moment.
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Jesus himself said there would be false messiahs; I see no reason why many of these false messiahs couldn't have predated Jesus. If anything, the vast number of messianic figures throughout history is demonstrative of mankind's yearning for reconciliation with the Creator.

Isaiah 53, authored 700 years before Christ, describes in detail the crucifixion of Christ, a method of execution that did not even exist when it was written. How do you explain this?
 
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Crucifixion is older than you would have us believe, it is mentioned in Exodus and was practiced by the Egyptians and the Persians, well before the time of the writer of Isaiah.

The gospels writers were well acquainted with Isaiah, they were able to use "scripture" in their gospels as proof of their "messiah". It is a practice used in literature today.
 
Rana said:
Crucifixion is older than you would have us believe, it is mentioned in Exodus and was practiced by the Egyptians and the Persians, well before the time of the writer of Isaiah.

The gospels writers were well acquainted with Isaiah, they were able to use "scripture" in their gospels as proof of their "messiah". It is a practice used in literature today.
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It seems obvious to me that it is a prophecy fulfilled, providing evidence that Jesus is indeed the Messiah. It must also be emphasized that the crucifixion of Jesus is a historical fact; it is well documented by Roman historians, such as Tacitus. The notion that Jesus never existed or was never crucified is baloney.

Where is crucifixion mentioned in Exodus?
 
Voltaire said:
It seems obvious to me that it is a prophecy fulfilled, providing evidence that Jesus is indeed the Messiah. It must also be emphasized that the crucifixion of Jesus is a historical fact; it is well documented by Roman historians, such as Tacitus. The notion that Jesus never existed or was never crucified is baloney.

Where is crucifixion mentioned in Exodus?
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She's wrong~ Her reference is likely to Deuteronomy. The commentary is specific to hanging-further because being hanged was an abomination, Israelites were instructed to take the body down and bury it the same day.

Deuteronomy 21:22-23 (American Standard Version)
22 And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree;

23 his body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt surely bury him the same day; for he that is hanged is accursed of God; that thou defile not thy land which Jehovah thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.
 
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Voltaire said:
It seems obvious to me that it is a prophecy fulfilled, providing evidence that Jesus is indeed the Messiah. It must also be emphasized that the crucifixion of Jesus is a historical fact; it is well documented by Roman historians, such as Tacitus. The notion that Jesus never existed or was never crucified is baloney.

Where is crucifixion mentioned in Exodus?
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I am sorry, I meant Genesis 40:19 and Deuteronomy 21:23, Esther 7:10, too.

It may seem obvious to you, but the Jews would differ with you on your evidence.

There may have been a man named Jesus who was crucified, all mythos is based in some fact.
 
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