There's no need for that Onceler.
If I’d ever seen you say that Obama had a fault, I guess I would have noticed. As it is, I haven’t. You are worshipping him , and your reaction on this thread is out of bounds.
Clinton Campaign says Obama is a Plagiarist!
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There's no need for that Onceler.
If I’d ever seen you say that Obama had a fault, I guess I would have noticed. As it is, I haven’t. You are worshipping him , and your reaction on this thread is out of bounds.
I suppose you believe that a man is going say “yeah I’m against Hillary because she’s a woman” huh? It’s funny no one is against her because of that, and yet I could keep myself busy all day here recounting all of the sexist things said about her.
You guys are such a hoot.
Well, the bitches have it coming, so knock yourselves out.
Obama hates women.
I don't think it is. You think you've had it with sexism? I don't like it when my enthusiasm about a candidate is called blind, naive, worshipful or associated with sexism in any way. I don't like it when I'm lumped in with "rabid attack dogs" for calling Hillary what she is - a poor choice for President who will likely give us 8 more years of gridlock on domestic issues. I don't like it when someone infers that "I'm just afraid of a strong woman," because I'm honest about calling her obvious flaws when I see them (which have nothing at all to do with gender).
I don't like it when I correctly point out that what Obama did was NOT plagiarism, and get a lecture about sexism in America in response.
I don't think this campaign should be about gender or race, but I realize that is unavoidable. As for the gender part, Hillary is bringing it up as much as anyone, as are her supporters - just as much as the sexists out there. I hate the whole thing, frankly. If these candidates were just being judged on merits, potential & electability, this race would have been over ages ago.
DigitalDave
Sexy Beast!
It was ticky-tack shit, which is very indicative of desperation. This is what most American's are tired of, the 'typical politics', and frankly, I don't care if you accuse me of sexism for hating on Hillary. I hate on Bush so I guess that make's me a man-hater too.
Hillary brings up gender as much as her detractors?
You're blind on this Onceler.
Hillary is not a poor choice for President - in fact, she is the best candidate running on either side. Obama is an unwritten page and that has the effect of allowing everyone to write their own story onto him. I hope he makes a good President, but I have no doubt that in fact, Hillary would also make a good President.
Obama has made attacks on Hillary that I didn't care for. I've already posted them, but they were ignored. Yet anytime hillary says a word, she is jumped on by Obama supporters as if she had called him a baby murderer.
Obama worshippers won’t be happy until she drops out of the race, at which time, I fully expect them to begin insisting that McCain just drop out of the race, so that Obama can get to work already. These elections are really getting in the way of the movement. And how dare Hillary campaign? She is so evil! That is just like her!
What it is, is a political campaign Dave. It wasn't even a low blow. It's a campaign. He's said plenty of stupid things, and things meant as an attack, in this campaign. Because it's, you know, a campaign. He's not the only one entitled to...campaign.
There's a lot of things not to like about Clinton, policy-wise. It's the same reason I object to most of the other DLC democrats.
However, you have to admit that Obama (at least for now) has a media-inspired teflon coating, similiar to how the media treats Saint John McCain. He's untouchable, for the most part to criticism.
I'd just like to see Clinton and Obama (and everyone else) held to the same standard. The clinton campaign is scrutinized for even a whiff of racism and impropriety. Obama's campaign has certainly sent out dog-whistle statements that are gender biased. I even slammed my own Candidate, Edwards, for inapporpirate gender-based comments. And the Obama campaign has played some hardball politics too; let's not be naive. . As do most politicians. I must admit, if John Edwards still had a shot at the nomination, and was fighting to seat the Florida delegation (if he won there), I wouldn't be pounding the table in a rage. I might be secretly hoping he did it.
I don't know how long the media teflon coating of Obama is going to last. If he's the nominee, the GOP smears and lies are going to come fast and furious. If he can stand up to punches from the Clinton campaing, it'll ultimately make him a better candidate.
Both campaign, however, need to back of the subtle cliches that are tied to race and gender.
Cancel 2016.2
The Almighty
Ahh... yes, the sexist rhetoric of Darla once again. If you are against Hillary and you are a man, you must be sexist. Cannot possibly have anything to do with her political positions. Never mind the fact that you dislike Bill Clowntoon just as much as Hillary. If you don't like her and you are a man, you must be sexist.
LMAO...
LMAO...
I whole heartedly disagree wtih that statement. I'm not rewarding her or McCain with my vote after they are the ones that gave that pea brained monkey the authority to go to war. The buck stops here and its about fcking time we stopped rewarding politicians that fck us over so badly with higher positions. End of story. She's not getting my vote and that pasty old cretin and shell of a former respectable man won't get my vote either.
What men need to remember also, that just as Democrats can’t win without blacks, you don’t win shit without white women, k?
So, knock off the whiny shit about “you can call me a sexist if you want”, (which I didn't call Dave, and this is much more about being unable to RECONIZE sexism, than it is about actually being a sexist) and the other slams. You better start listening. God gave you two ears and one mouth for a reason. You ain’t gonna win shit if you keep beating down women and their concerns in this. Even if you win the primary, the uglier you get, the more white women will stay the fuck home. Stop yapping, and start thinking.
So, knock off the whiny shit about “you can call me a sexist if you want”, (which I didn't call Dave, and this is much more about being unable to RECONIZE sexism, than it is about actually being a sexist) and the other slams. You better start listening. God gave you two ears and one mouth for a reason. You ain’t gonna win shit if you keep beating down women and their concerns in this. Even if you win the primary, the uglier you get, the more white women will stay the fuck home. Stop yapping, and start thinking.
wHAT???!!!! You called him a baby-murderer!11!!!shiftplusone!!1!!
Doom! Doom to your campaign!
j/k.
Anyway, Obama is peaking right now, Hillary is on the wane and people support their candidates.
I have not, nor have I ever, defended a pretty bad & disingenuous misrepresentation (which Wolfson even admitted Hillary does herself) as "politics as usual," and just a normal part of campaigning. It's kind of sad to see these kind of tactics have hit a level that is considered acceptable; I realize that they will be a part of every campaign, but we can at least call them when we see them, right?
And, yeah - Hillary, for about 2 weeks, had as a standard part of her stump speech, something to the effect of "You want change? The 1st woman President....now THAT is change." I can grab a quote on the web if you want.
And Cypress - I wouldn't call BC's remarks about Jesse Jackson in SC a "whiff of racism"....
And, yeah - Hillary, for about 2 weeks, had as a standard part of her stump speech, something to the effect of "You want change? The 1st woman President....now THAT is change." I can grab a quote on the web if you want.
And Cypress - I wouldn't call BC's remarks about Jesse Jackson in SC a "whiff of racism"....
Disagreeing with her and not planning to vote for her, do not make her unqualified. She is more qualified than Obama, period.
I did NOT vote for her in the primary, but I am still able to reconize that she is easily the most qualified candidate in the field, save possible McCain who you would have to say was qualified. Was Romnye more qualified than Hillary? NO. Was Rudy more qualified than Hillary? No way. Is obama more qualified than Hillary? Again, no.
DigitalDave
Sexy Beast!
...and it's all over the media. How Obama has to use a teleprompter and can't write his own speeches. That all his rhetoric is just copied. It's annoying as hell. It was perfect for the Republican smear machine, and they are using it. Hillary, to me, is just like one of them, except different policies. Hillary is effective at smearing people, great.