Collapse of the American Empire

bravo said:
Do you seriously think that our role as global superpower is responsible for the economic collapse?.....Its only since the far left liberal pinheads that continue to push us toward socialism, becoming a country of welfare recipients living off the hard work of others, and trying to 'redistribute' the country wealth , that we've gotten into a downward economic spiral......
If we survive this present generation of pinhead leftists, we'll fully recover and then some.
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Nope. Globalization stupidity is the biggest causative factor in our current hardships.
 
Morality is non existant in economics. It's a loser's way out, one more thing to whine about. China is the guilty party allowing the slavery.
 
Topspin said:
Morality is non existant in economics. It's a loser's way out, one more thing to whine about. China is the guilty party allowing the slavery.
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That's why markets are constrained inside a moral context, and should be.

That's why kiddie porn is illegal, for instance.

We're also guilty for using the slave labor, incentivizing it with our orders. It's also bad to use it to put other americans out of work, and it's harmful to lose creative capacities as well.
 
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An idiot like you who's never studied economics would mix social laws with economics. While being blind to the greater wealth affect of globalization.
Not all benefit equally as you surely are not, personally I may be benefitting way more than most as I'm at the upper end of financial wealth.
 
Topspin said:
An idiot like you who's never studied economics would mix social laws with economics. While being blind to the greater wealth affect of globalization.
Not all benefit equally as you surely are not, personally I may be benefitting way more than most as I'm at the upper end of financial wealth.
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In life, everything's all mixed together.

Greater wealth affect? That's why the global economy is collapsing. Bravo. I guess you got good and bad mixed up again. Sue your parents for raising you stupid.
 
Global economy collapsing!!! Bahahaha
Please don't stop posting your retarded bullshit it's hillarious.
The global economy is growing rapiditly you fool.
Wanna know the biggest reason for the continuation of the rich getting richer?
The non rich like you don't participate.
keep them coming you surf lover.
 
Topspin said:
Global economy collapsing!!! Bahahaha
Please don't stop posting your retarded bullshit it's hillarious.
The global economy is growing rapiditly you fool.
Wanna know the biggest reason for the continuation of the rich getting richer?
The non rich like you don't participate.
keep them coming you surf lover.
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Oh, you mean all the rich people printing money for themselves?

Not real growth.
 
thanks more bs from the thrice layed off data entry clerk.
I won't go into China's 9% growth, India's 8%, yada yada
your too dumb to get it.
Check where you were 5 years ago crying about this, I'm up several hundred thousand since then. The chicken little routine you have down is hillarious.
 
Topspin said:
thanks more bs from the thrice layed off data entry clerk.
I won't go into China's 9% growth, India's 8%, yada yada
your too dumb to get it.
Check where you were 5 years ago crying about this, I'm up several hundred thousand since then. The chicken little routine you have down is hillarious.
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I care about america's economy. Those countries are growing just by putting americans out of work. You are a traitor and should have your citizenship revoked for being an asshole.
 
asshat your name is befitting, in 5 years you'll have the same wealth ie none. I'll have several hundred thousand more.
 
Topspin said:
asshat your name is befitting, in 5 years you'll have the same wealth ie none. I'll have several hundred thousand more.
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Congratulations. But markets are still managed inside a context of other considerations. According to you it's fine to steal, because it's profitable.
 
AssHatZombie said:
That's why markets are constrained inside a moral context, and should be.

That's why kiddie porn is illegal, for instance.

We're also guilty for using the slave labor, incentivizing it with our orders. It's also bad to use it to put other americans out of work, and it's harmful to lose creative capacities as well.
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AssHat, it's not slave labor. The people in China and India are happy to have jobs. Their standard of living has increased enormously. Check out the wages here. http://www.worldsalaries.org/china.shtml

An auto mechanic...$122/mth
A construction worker....$122/mth
A carpenter... $127/mth
A professional nurse...$187/mth.

While these are 2005 figures the point is someone earning one dollar an hour for a 40 hour week would be earning about $160/mth. so a job paying one dollar an hour is not slave labor. They would be earning more than a carpenter or mechanic.

Poverty is the relationship between what a person earns compared to what others earn with whom they have to deal. Paying someone in China $20.00/hr to manufacture TV sets would be equivalent to paying someone here 20 times what a carpenter makes!! If a carpenter made $50,000/yr the guy making TV sets would be pulling down ONE MILLION per year.

Sooner or later the world has to balance out. That's the road we're walking now. Globalization. Free trade. Call it what you will. It has to come about.
 
apple0154 said:
AssHat, it's not slave labor. The people in China and India are happy to have jobs. Their standard of living has increased enormously. Check out the wages here. http://www.worldsalaries.org/china.shtml

An auto mechanic...$122/mth
A construction worker....$122/mth
A carpenter... $127/mth
A professional nurse...$187/mth.

While these are 2005 figures the point is someone earning one dollar an hour for a 40 hour week would be earning about $160/mth. so a job paying one dollar an hour is not slave labor. They would be earning more than a carpenter or mechanic.

Poverty is the relationship between what a person earns compared to what others earn with whom they have to deal. Paying someone in China $20.00/hr to manufacture TV sets would be equivalent to paying someone here 20 times what a carpenter makes!! If a carpenter made $50,000/yr the guy making TV sets would be pulling down ONE MILLION per year.

Sooner or later the world has to balance out. That's the road we're walking now. Globalization. Free trade. Call it what you will. It has to come about.
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They're wage slaves. And many of them are so happy their committing suicide from inside their corporate slave camps.

After Suicides, Scrutiny of China’s Grim Factories
By DAVID BARBOZA
Published: June 6, 2010


SHENZHEN, China — The factory’s first death this year came on Jan. 23.
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Ma Zishan and Ma Liqun, the father and sister of a Foxconn worker who killed himself in January, after being demoted. “The factory was always abusing my brother,” Ms. Ma said.
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The Foxconn sites in Shenzhen have a reputation as grueling workplaces, where tasks are timed with a stopwatch.
The body of a 19-year-old worker named Ma Xiangqian was found in front of his high-rise dormitory at 4:30 a.m. Police investigators concluded that he had leapt from a high floor, and they ruled it a suicide.

His family, including his 22-year-old sister who worked at the same company, Foxconn Technology, said he hated the job he had held only since November — an 11-hour overnight shift, seven nights a week, forging plastic and metal into electronics parts amid fumes and dust. Or at least that was Mr. Ma’s job until, after a run-in with his supervisor, he was demoted in December to cleaning toilets.

Mr. Ma’s pay stub shows that he worked 286 hours in the month before he died, including 112 hours of overtime, about three times the legal limit. For all of that, even with extra pay for overtime, he earned the equivalent of $1 an hour.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/07/business/global/07suicide.html
 
"Poverty is the relationship between what a person earns compared to what others earn with whom they have to deal."

Oh really? So if we just quit interacting with the poverty stricken, their problems will jsut go away. Wow. cool. so easy.
 
AssHatZombie said:
They're wage slaves. And many of them are so happy their committing suicide from inside their corporate slave camps.

After Suicides, Scrutiny of China’s Grim Factories
By DAVID BARBOZA
Published: June 6, 2010


SHENZHEN, China — The factory’s first death this year came on Jan. 23.
Enlarge This Image

Reuters
Ma Zishan and Ma Liqun, the father and sister of a Foxconn worker who killed himself in January, after being demoted. “The factory was always abusing my brother,” Ms. Ma said.
Related


Kin Cheung/Associated Press
The Foxconn sites in Shenzhen have a reputation as grueling workplaces, where tasks are timed with a stopwatch.
The body of a 19-year-old worker named Ma Xiangqian was found in front of his high-rise dormitory at 4:30 a.m. Police investigators concluded that he had leapt from a high floor, and they ruled it a suicide.

His family, including his 22-year-old sister who worked at the same company, Foxconn Technology, said he hated the job he had held only since November — an 11-hour overnight shift, seven nights a week, forging plastic and metal into electronics parts amid fumes and dust. Or at least that was Mr. Ma’s job until, after a run-in with his supervisor, he was demoted in December to cleaning toilets.

Mr. Ma’s pay stub shows that he worked 286 hours in the month before he died, including 112 hours of overtime, about three times the legal limit. For all of that, even with extra pay for overtime, he earned the equivalent of $1 an hour.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/07/business/global/07suicide.html
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The only difference between PRC deaths and USA deaths is that PRC has cut out the middle man!
 
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