Department of education.

Nordberg said:
States rights is a race to the bottom. A couple of states cut usury laws and banking regulations. Nearly every bank set up an office in them, often just a mailbox. Then they could get what Delaware and South Carolina did.
You do not elevate education or anything else by state rights. Mississippi will cut education for some neighborhoods. They already provide substandard education in most of the state. Taking the national government out of education will allow them to do what they want, and it will be ugly.
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Disagreed. State's Rights is a starting point. The Constitution is the umbrella that covers us all. It's up to a dutiful Congress, Executive branch and SCOTUS to ensure our unalienable rights are protected.

The usual problem is conflicts between citizens and, in a capitalist country, citizens and corporations. IMO, the worst thing to happen to our Republic was giving an eternal, soulless corporation the same rights as an American citizen. Elon Musk and Trump's Oligarchy of Tech Lords is as result.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Disagreed. State's Rights is a starting point. The Constitution is the umbrella that covers us all. It's up to a dutiful Congress, Executive branch and SCOTUS to ensure our unalienable rights are protected.

The usual problem is conflicts between citizens and, in a capitalist country, citizens and corporations. IMO, the worst thing to happen to our Republic was giving an eternal, soulless corporation the same rights as an American citizen. Elon Musk and Trump's Oligarchy of Tech Lords is as result.
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Education has to travel across the states. America is a mobile country. People move for universities and change locations for jobs. Can you hire someone from Mississippi for a job? can they transfer seamlessly into new schools?
Education has to be the same across the country.
 
Nordberg said:
Education has to travel across the states. America is a mobile country. People move for universities and change locations for jobs. Can you hire someone from Mississippi for a job? can they transfer seamlessly into new schools?
Education has to be the same across the country.
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Agreed. In the absence of the federal certification, states will form their own systems and alliances. Someone from an Alabama University may not be accepted by MIT or CalTech because they don't meet the standards.

Who loses there? Alabama citizens. Who wins? The Trumpian Oligarchy because they love poorly educated people. LOL
 
BartenderElite said:
Lionfish said:
Mr. Tiny Penis doesn't know less than one quarter of the DOE's $268 BIILLION budget goes to schools.
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You don't fact check those MAGA talking points, do you?

That's a false stat. Do some actual research.
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Lesion pulls it out of his bed pan. He reads his shit like tea leaves. Weird.

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Nordberg said:
States rights is a race to the bottom. A couple of states cut usury laws and banking regulations. Nearly every bank set up an office in them, often just a mailbox. Then they could get what Delaware and South Carolina did.
You do not elevate education or anything else by state rights. Mississippi will cut education for some neighborhoods. They already provide substandard education in most of the state. Taking the national government out of education will allow them to do what they want, and it will be ugly.
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Hence national educational testing standards. The RWers want to ditch those and let states set their own. Why? Because so many states fail to meet them -- esp. the ones that are poor and vote red.
 
Nordberg said:
Education has to travel across the states. America is a mobile country. People move for universities and change locations for jobs. Can you hire someone from Mississippi for a job? can they transfer seamlessly into new schools?
Education has to be the same across the country.
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Good point. Standardization makes mobility possibly whether intrastate or interstate. A patchwork of school districts, some of which produce educated grads and others that have high drop out rates, does not promote the freedom to be "upwardly mobile." Fund them all equally, have oversight and standards, make sure that students have affordable post-grad opportunities in their areas.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. In the absence of the federal certification, states will form their own systems and alliances. Someone from an Alabama University may not be accepted by MIT or CalTech because they don't meet the standards.

Who loses there? Alabama citizens. Who wins? The Trumpian Oligarchy because they love poorly educated people. LOL
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So you support federal oversight and standards rather than "states' rights" when it comes to education?
 
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