Yes. If it is true that somebody filed this suit it is news. I really am not sure of the suit though, which is what I stated earlier that was misconceived by somebody who tends to do that often with my posts, I believe purposefully.
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Let me get this straight.
Darla is upset because somebody else called her a bad name???
Now that IS funny.
This is the same Darla who regularly says things like:
Found in about 30 seconds of searching. What do you suppose 30 minutes would dredge up?
BTW, I can't access the individual posts on this forum any more at work. Only at home. I can start threads, but can't enter any thread to read or reply to any posts. I asked the IT guy why, he checked the logs, and found a certain poster's continued use of foul language had triggered the firewall. I'll let you guess which poster.
But now she's "sensitive" about someone calling her a bad name.
Uh-huh.
I guess some things never change.
Darla is upset because somebody else called her a bad name???
Now that IS funny.
This is the same Darla who regularly says things like:
Found in about 30 seconds of searching. What do you suppose 30 minutes would dredge up?
BTW, I can't access the individual posts on this forum any more at work. Only at home. I can start threads, but can't enter any thread to read or reply to any posts. I asked the IT guy why, he checked the logs, and found a certain poster's continued use of foul language had triggered the firewall. I'll let you guess which poster.
But now she's "sensitive" about someone calling her a bad name.
Uh-huh.
I guess some things never change.
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Okay, so dickweed is offensive to the men...as is fucktard?
These men are very sensitive types, I will go easy on them.
Cunt has a totally different connotation than does dickweed, sheesh, my sons call each other dickweed, if men on here are offended by that, then excuse me all you Gentle men.
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C*** is a million times more degrading than "dickweed". The comparison is idiotic, troll.
Only a conservative could think like that.
Only a conservative could think like that.
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Tough titty. Darla's protestations of being offended, after the legacy of shallow obscenity and abuse she has strewn in her wake, leave me unmoved. If she decides to leave, for whatever reason, she will be helping the board, not hurting it.
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Welcome to my ignore list, Honkie.
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This is like a black guy being called a N***** and Little-Dick pulling up a post where that black guy called someone else a potty-head and Little-Dick claiming that the two equalize each other.
I can't believe people that think like this exist in the world. I can't believe this conversation is even possible.
I can't believe people that think like this exist in the world. I can't believe this conversation is even possible.
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I don't know how to apply the ignore, I am illiterate.
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Sorry, I guess he didn't make my top 25
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You know shit like this does nothing to advance ideas or free speech. You wouldn't call BAC a ni**er here and expect to get away with it but you use c#*t and direct it at Darla and try to pretend it makes you enlightened or a free speech advocate or daring and it does none of those things. It only makes you look like a knuckledragging, mouthbreathing, lips move when you read to yourself asshole moron cracker mutherfucker. And while I used your quote to post this, it is not just directed at you.
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Wow that is too mutherfucking bad huh you dickwad. I plan to use more profanity than I do already. With any luck I get your IT guys to block this site all together. Mother fucker of god that would make me happy as a pig ass fucking a goat in cow shit.
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I don't think any of those things will affect the little nut.
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SHut up, cunt-lover.
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darla said:
Two down, a few more to go. Good progress as the trash is taken out.Watermark said:
Back to the subject:
I've heard one report (no backing, as is common with these early rumors) that there exists a registration card from Indonesia, showing that Obama's mother registered him as a citizen of Indonesia when he was an infant. If that's true (a very big IF), then it actually does bring Obama's current qualification into question, unlike all the silly birth-certificate hysteria.
The rumor continues that Indonesia does not have dual-citizenship capability. So, if true, this means that Obama was not an American citizen for some brief time during childhood. Not a big deal, one would think: he could easily and quickly regain his U.S. citizenship any time.
But if that's what happened, Obama would then be a naturalized U.S. citizen, and no longer a natural-born one. As such, he would not be eligible for the Presidency.
Well, an awful lot of IFs there, any one of which would scuttle the sequence of events. Chances are it's not so. But still interesting to speculate.
The first IF to confirm or disprove: Is there an Indonesian registration card for citizenship with Obama's name (whatever name his mother was usig for him at the time) on it? And, does Indonesia have dual-citizenship capability?
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It doesn't matter if Obama is a dual-citizen, but he may very well be because his father was Kenyan. If Kenyan law gives automatic citizenship to children of unmarried people not born in Kenya then he's a Kenyan citizen. If his mom became a citizen of Indonesia, it's possible the citizenship would apply to him.
If he does hold citizenship with other nations and anyone has a problem with that, it would be an extremely simple matter for him to just go to the embassy and renounce them.
If he does hold citizenship with other nations and anyone has a problem with that, it would be an extremely simple matter for him to just go to the embassy and renounce them.
FACT CHECK!
Born in the U.S.A.
August 21, 2008
The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."
We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
Analysis
Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News.
Corsi: Well, what would be really helpful is if Senator Obama would release primary documents like his birth certificate. The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website. How is anybody supposed to really piece together his life?
Doocy: What do you mean they have a "false birth certificate" on their Web site?
Corsi: The original birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.
Doocy: Well, couldn't it just be a State of Hawaii-produced duplicate?
Corsi: No, it's a -- there's been good analysis of it on the Internet, and it's been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It's a fake document that's on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce.
Corsi isn't the only skeptic claiming that the document is a forgery. Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:
The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
It isn't signed.
No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
The certificate number is blacked out.
The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."
Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.
....GO TO LINK TO LOOK AT PICTURES: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
You can click on the photos to get full-size versions, which haven't been edited in any way, except that some have been rotated 90 degrees for viewing purposes.
The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records." The names, date and place of birth, and filing date are all evident on the scanned version, and you can see the seal above.
The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.
The scan released by the campaign shows halos around the black text, making it look (to some) as though the text might have been pasted on top of an image of security paper. But the document itself has no such halos, nor do the close-up photos we took of it. We conclude that the halo seen in the image produced by the campaign is a digital artifact from the scanning process.
We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that's when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and "all the records we could get our hands on" according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn't release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama's citizenship. The campaign then rushed to release the document, and the rush is responsible for the blacked-out certificate number. Says Shauna: "[We] couldn't get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we've found out it's pretty irrelevant for the outside world." The document we looked at did have a certificate number; it is 151 1961 - 010641.
Some of the conspiracy theories that have circulated about Obama are quite imaginative. One conservative blogger suggested that the campaign might have obtained a valid Hawaii birth certificate, soaked it in solvent, then reprinted it with Obama's information. Of course, this anonymous blogger didn't have access to the actual document and presents this as just one possible "scenario" without any evidence that such a thing actually happened or is even feasible.
We also note that so far none of those questioning the authenticity of the document have produced a shred of evidence that the information on it is incorrect. Instead, some speculate that somehow, maybe, he was born in another country and doesn't meet the Constitution's requirement that the president be a "natural-born citizen."
We think our colleagues at PolitiFact.com, who also dug into some of these loopy theories put it pretty well: "It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible. But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over."
In fact, the conspiracy would need to be even deeper than our colleagues realized. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:
Obama's birth announcement @ LINK
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.
Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.
Thought it was important to post the full synopsis of FACTCHECK.ORG... the guy in pennsylvania is wearing a tinfoil hat and just wasted some bucks on this lawsuit, if he truely went forward with it.
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Born in the U.S.A.
August 21, 2008
The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."
We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
Analysis
Since we first wrote about Obama's birth certificate on June 16, speculation on his citizenship has continued apace. Some claim that Obama posted a fake birth certificate to his Web page. That charge leaped from the blogosphere to the mainstream media earlier this week when Jerome Corsi, author of a book attacking Obama, repeated the claim in an Aug. 15 interview with Steve Doocy on Fox News.
Corsi: Well, what would be really helpful is if Senator Obama would release primary documents like his birth certificate. The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website. How is anybody supposed to really piece together his life?
Doocy: What do you mean they have a "false birth certificate" on their Web site?
Corsi: The original birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.
Doocy: Well, couldn't it just be a State of Hawaii-produced duplicate?
Corsi: No, it's a -- there's been good analysis of it on the Internet, and it's been shown to have watermarks from Photoshop. It's a fake document that's on the Web site right now, and the original birth certificate the campaign refuses to produce.
Corsi isn't the only skeptic claiming that the document is a forgery. Among the most frequent objections we saw on forums, blogs and e-mails are:
The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
It isn't signed.
No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
The certificate number is blacked out.
The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."
Recently FactCheck representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago. We can assure readers that the certificate does bear a raised seal, and that it's stamped on the back by Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka (who uses a signature stamp rather than signing individual birth certificates). We even brought home a few photographs.
....GO TO LINK TO LOOK AT PICTURES: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
You can click on the photos to get full-size versions, which haven't been edited in any way, except that some have been rotated 90 degrees for viewing purposes.
The certificate has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: "your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records." The names, date and place of birth, and filing date are all evident on the scanned version, and you can see the seal above.
The document is a "certification of birth," also known as a short-form birth certificate. The long form is drawn up by the hospital and includes additional information such as birth weight and parents' hometowns. The short form is printed by the state and draws from a database with fewer details. The Hawaii Department of Health's birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate, but their short form has enough information to be acceptable to the State Department. We tried to ask the Hawaii DOH why they only offer the short form, among other questions, but they have not given a response.
The scan released by the campaign shows halos around the black text, making it look (to some) as though the text might have been pasted on top of an image of security paper. But the document itself has no such halos, nor do the close-up photos we took of it. We conclude that the halo seen in the image produced by the campaign is a digital artifact from the scanning process.
We asked the Obama campaign about the date stamp and the blacked-out certificate number. The certificate is stamped June 2007, because that's when Hawaii officials produced it for the campaign, which requested that document and "all the records we could get our hands on" according to spokesperson Shauna Daly. The campaign didn't release its copy until 2008, after speculation began to appear on the Internet questioning Obama's citizenship. The campaign then rushed to release the document, and the rush is responsible for the blacked-out certificate number. Says Shauna: "[We] couldn't get someone on the phone in Hawaii to tell us whether the number represented some secret information, and we erred on the side of blacking it out. Since then we've found out it's pretty irrelevant for the outside world." The document we looked at did have a certificate number; it is 151 1961 - 010641.
Some of the conspiracy theories that have circulated about Obama are quite imaginative. One conservative blogger suggested that the campaign might have obtained a valid Hawaii birth certificate, soaked it in solvent, then reprinted it with Obama's information. Of course, this anonymous blogger didn't have access to the actual document and presents this as just one possible "scenario" without any evidence that such a thing actually happened or is even feasible.
We also note that so far none of those questioning the authenticity of the document have produced a shred of evidence that the information on it is incorrect. Instead, some speculate that somehow, maybe, he was born in another country and doesn't meet the Constitution's requirement that the president be a "natural-born citizen."
We think our colleagues at PolitiFact.com, who also dug into some of these loopy theories put it pretty well: "It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible. But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over."
In fact, the conspiracy would need to be even deeper than our colleagues realized. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961:
Obama's birth announcement @ LINK
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.
Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.
Thought it was important to post the full synopsis of FACTCHECK.ORG... the guy in pennsylvania is wearing a tinfoil hat and just wasted some bucks on this lawsuit, if he truely went forward with it.
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