There are no atheists in foxholes. You know, deep down inside, the difference between right and wrong. Only your rebellious nature has suppressed those ethics and morals for a very long time (talking to everyone, myself included here)
Evolution vs Creationism---Is there a God? Or is it all just random chance?
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There are no atheists in foxholes. You know, deep down inside, the difference between right and wrong. Only your rebellious nature has suppressed those ethics and morals for a very long time (talking to everyone, myself included here)
But we cant have our cake and eat it too. It's all or nothing at this point.
You should learn to take God at his word. By and large, there no allegory in the bible.
And the view of Satan is NOT rooted in Medieval mythology (let me guess, you are Game of Thrones fan?)
It's rooted in a much older book called the Bible. You are wrong on all accounts, my friend.
p.s. no such thing as a liberal Christian.
Of course, this particular narration of the southern strategy is alive and well amongst the liberal democrats.
Contrary to popular misconception, the parties never"switched" on racism. The Democrats just switched from overt racism to asubversive strategy of getting blacks as dependent as possible ongovernment to secure their votes. At the same time, they began a cynicalsmear campaign to label anyone who opposes their devious strategy asgreedy racists.
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Let's do our best not to derail this thread with a democrat vs republican pissing match. [/FONT]
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
I've seen some of your other posts. Thought maybe you actually wanted a civil and adult discussion this time. But then there was this. This outpouring of falsehood and crazy ends my conversations with you.
Your trolling is subpar and utterly tepid. But I am certain you thought this was clever when you typed it
LOL Trolling? What are you talking about? This thread was created to have a frank and honest bipartisan discussion regarding the merits on evolution vs creationism. I am 100 percent serious.
If you have nothing more of value to post, could you please just get lost?
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
That’s not only irrelevant it’s also an urban legend that isn’t true. The Lady Hope story was debunked by Darwin’s children shortly after his death. According to Darwin’s children, who were present when he died, not only did Darwin not renounce evolutionary theory, Lady Hope wasn’t even there. Nor was she present during his illness or any illness. In fact Darwin had never even met Lady Hope. In short, Lady Hope lied.
Hell even the ICR debunks that urban legend as untrue. It didn’t happen.
It’s irrelevant because Darwin didn’t formulate his famous theory in a vacuum. It was long known by geologist that the earth’s origin was far more ancient than had been believed and naturalist before Darwin had observed and noted how the geological record gave evidence of species changing over time. There were also peers to Darwin in his own time who made the same conclusion independently. Notably Alfred Wallace.
What Darwin did was piece the evidence painstakingly together to provide a functional predictive model of speciation that he published in a scientific and literary masterpiece “On The Origins of Species”. That is why evolutionary theory is named after him.
The point being that the principal of evolution was known before Darwin and the evidence that we’ve learned since then has supported Darwin’s observation and, more importantly, the theory has been updated and revised with these additional discoveries like the laws of genetics, nucleic acids (RNA/DNA), protein structures and synthesis. All of which could have easily have falsified evolutionary theory but haven’t. They have, in fact, provided stronger support and deeper understanding of evolutionary theory which has been correspondingly revised to account for this new knowledge.
Darwin in his own time did not know what the physical mechanism of natural selection was and understood that it was a weakness in his theory. He just observed natural selection and how it functioned. We now know from later discovery that genetics and the biological properties of nucleic acids are the underlying mechanism of natural selection.
Darwin did not know what this mechanism was in his time but had faith that it would be discovered. What is ironic is that even as Darwin wrote it that very discovery had already been made by a cloistered Austrian Monk. Ironic ehh?
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Fair enough. I’ll put to you starkly. Creationism is as valid as any other human mythology or mysticism or philosophical/religious belief as an origins story. This does separate Creationism from Evolutionary theory as evolution has nothing to say about ultimate origins. Evolutionary theory is limited to modeling speciation.
As science Creationism has no merit what so ever, and meets absolutely none of the tenets for being considered science. It’s not based on empirical observation. It doesn’t model natural phenomena ( quite the opposite it models supernatural phenomena). It makes no useful testable predictions that can be independently verified. It isn’t, in principle, falsifiable and it has not once published any peer reviewed research or discoveries.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
it's not obvious from this whether you are talking about creationism or the theory that humans evolved from single cell organisms........please clarify......
You have the corner on what’s right and what’s wrong? Typical of the sheer arrogance of “Christians”.
The Bible is the word of God.
How do you know that?
Because the Bible tells us so.
Why believe the Bible?
Because the Bible is infallible.
How do you know that?
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Some see it that way, but i dont.
Mason Michaels
Verified User
Creation and Evolution can
Coexist!
Coexist!
This has always been my question, why did an Omnipotent being need worship from flawed humans? Why does he compete with Satan? It’s never made sense to me.
Because worshiping your Creator is the best way to defeat Satan.
You've never taken a course in philosophy, have you?
Facts too brutal for your delicate sensibilities?
Eagle_Eye
Well-known member
Do you love your children? Do you allow your children to make decision's right or wrong? When they come to you for disobeying the rules, do you forgive them? If they show that they are not really sorry do you reward them anyway?
I am not an Omnipotent god. I don’t require my children to obey/love me or face eternal damnation.