Gun prices going down

Good morning. Remember its Sunday today so no school.
My 'fantasy' as it pleases you to call it, is mostly peaceful and 'relatively' harmonious. You obviously treat that with disdain I can't help that. As I said before,I am sure your grandchildren will evolve with the ability to open their eyes. You want to live with the daily fear of robbery and murder and the necessity to own a gun with the commensurate likelihood that you might be shot, it's up to you.
You demonstrate the very worst of the American way. It permeates far too much of America and makes them at once the most dangerous and the most stupid people on earth.
I do not expect you to agree. You do not have the ability to think. You have been manipulated by the profit machine (that feeds from you and gives you nothing in return) to believe that its the American way or the highway. I think it was Prince Charles who said, in one of his more lucid moments several years ago, people will never understand poverty or the result of their selfish actions until they travel abroad.
Once again, you silly misguided little man, save your pennies. Visit Bangladesh, help with the flood damage, visit Uganda, Kenya. pop over to India and see how the poor are getting poorer because people like you are too thick to give a shit.
Go to Indonesia and visit the palm oil plantations, take a break in the Maldives - you'll have to be quick, they'll be under water in a few years. Will you house their people?
Should you have the balls to leave your little OK Corral I can promise you that you will not need your guns.


Crime Gangs Exercise Vast Power in Hong Kong

Yan Sui Kuen was only 10 years old when, in a secret midnight ceremony on a Hong Kong rooftop, he swore eternal allegiance to a triad, one of the colony's infamous organized crime gangs.

Eleven young people were initiated that hot summer night, each one pricking his middle finger and squeezing drops of blood into a cup. After the blood was mixed with water, each youngster drank from the cup, as 40 adult triad members, wearing white headbands, watched beneath the group's brilliant red banner.

''The ceremony was very long,'' Mr. Yan, now 42, recalled. ''They read many lessons and made us swear to many things.''

The gangs are called triads because their mystic literature emphasizes a three-way relationship among heaven, earth, and man. But there is nothing fanciful about the fear they create among the people on whom they prey - the poorest of Hong Kong's 5.6 million people. Fear of Exported Gangs

Now, as Chinese stream from Hong Kong to avoid the Communist takeover in 1997, the countries accepting large numbers of these new settlers fear that Hong Kong is exporting its gangs.

''We're on the phone every day now with one police department or another wanting to know about triads,'' complained a senior Royal Hong Kong Police official. ''We don't believe there is a mass exodus of triad members from Hong Kong, but everybody out there is worried and nervous.'

Triads trace their roots back to 17th-century China, and although they call their leaders by traditional titles, such as White Paper Fan and Red Pole, they dominate many of the rough-and-tumble criminal businesses in modern Hong Kong.

Hong Kong's 15 or so active triad gangs have an estimated 20,000 members in the colony, where they have a virtual monopoly on extortion rackets, collecting payoffs from small newsstands and huge construction companies alike. Most Powerful Gangs

Their power has even attracted the attention of China's leaders. Four years ago, around the time Britain agreed to the 1997 transfer, the Chinese leader, Deng Xiaoping, observed, ''Illegal gangs in Hong Kong are very powerful, perhaps much more powerful than their counterparts in any other place.'

The gangs can be crude and brutal. Last July a triad hit man wielding a meat cleaver hacked a Hong Kong businessman to death in a tennis court parking lot in front of stunned women and children. Days earlier, police said, the man had been sent the severed head of a black dog as a warning.

Last week, in what police believe was a revenge killing, a young Chinese hairdresser having a snack in a convenience store was attacked by seven triad gang members using barbecue forks and broken bottles. The police said when they arrived the forks were still imbedded in the victim's face and body.

Triads can also be sophisticated and businesslike: the police say white-collar enterprises sometimes insure their own safety by employing several triad members in their public-relations departments. Control of Bus Routes

Along with interests in loan sharking, illegal drug sales, pornography and prostitution, triads have virtually taken over the home-contracting business here and even control which buses are allowed to operate along some of Hong Kong's busiest streets, according to a report on the gangs.

It is not difficult to discern the triad touch in certain crimes, said Brian Merritt, chief staff officer of the police organized and serious crime group.

''If a restaurant owner won't pay up the first time he is asked,'' he said, ''the next day the triad will come back at his busiest hour, and 50 triad thugs will spread out and take up all his tables. If nightclubs don't pay, they like to toss live snakes on the dance floor.''

Triad gangs control many of the colony's popular martial arts schools, provide most of the bouncers for nightclubs and many of the extras in Hong Kong kung fu movies, the police said. 'Kung Fu Stars Are Straight'

''The big kung fu stars here are straight,'' said Mr. Merritt, ''but a lot of the extras are triad members. They are the ones who practice martial arts in big numbers.''



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Crime Gangs Exercise Vast Power in Hong Kong

Yan Sui Kuen was only 10 years old when, in a secret midnight ceremony on a Hong Kong rooftop, he swore eternal allegiance to a triad, one of the colony's infamous organized crime gangs.

Eleven young people were initiated that hot summer night, each one pricking his middle finger and squeezing drops of blood into a cup. After the blood was mixed with water, each youngster drank from the cup, as 40 adult triad members, wearing white headbands, watched beneath the group's brilliant red banner.

''The ceremony was very long,'' Mr. Yan, now 42, recalled. ''They read many lessons and made us swear to many things.''

The gangs are called triads because their mystic literature emphasizes a three-way relationship among heaven, earth, and man. But there is nothing fanciful about the fear they create among the people on whom they prey - the poorest of Hong Kong's 5.6 million people. Fear of Exported Gangs

Now, as Chinese stream from Hong Kong to avoid the Communist takeover in 1997, the countries accepting large numbers of these new settlers fear that Hong Kong is exporting its gangs.

''We're on the phone every day now with one police department or another wanting to know about triads,'' complained a senior Royal Hong Kong Police official. ''We don't believe there is a mass exodus of triad members from Hong Kong, but everybody out there is worried and nervous.'

Triads trace their roots back to 17th-century China, and although they call their leaders by traditional titles, such as White Paper Fan and Red Pole, they dominate many of the rough-and-tumble criminal businesses in modern Hong Kong.

Hong Kong's 15 or so active triad gangs have an estimated 20,000 members in the colony, where they have a virtual monopoly on extortion rackets, collecting payoffs from small newsstands and huge construction companies alike. Most Powerful Gangs

Their power has even attracted the attention of China's leaders. Four years ago, around the time Britain agreed to the 1997 transfer, the Chinese leader, Deng Xiaoping, observed, ''Illegal gangs in Hong Kong are very powerful, perhaps much more powerful than their counterparts in any other place.'

The gangs can be crude and brutal. Last July a triad hit man wielding a meat cleaver hacked a Hong Kong businessman to death in a tennis court parking lot in front of stunned women and children. Days earlier, police said, the man had been sent the severed head of a black dog as a warning.

Last week, in what police believe was a revenge killing, a young Chinese hairdresser having a snack in a convenience store was attacked by seven triad gang members using barbecue forks and broken bottles. The police said when they arrived the forks were still imbedded in the victim's face and body.

Triads can also be sophisticated and businesslike: the police say white-collar enterprises sometimes insure their own safety by employing several triad members in their public-relations departments. Control of Bus Routes

Along with interests in loan sharking, illegal drug sales, pornography and prostitution, triads have virtually taken over the home-contracting business here and even control which buses are allowed to operate along some of Hong Kong's busiest streets, according to a report on the gangs.

It is not difficult to discern the triad touch in certain crimes, said Brian Merritt, chief staff officer of the police organized and serious crime group.

''If a restaurant owner won't pay up the first time he is asked,'' he said, ''the next day the triad will come back at his busiest hour, and 50 triad thugs will spread out and take up all his tables. If nightclubs don't pay, they like to toss live snakes on the dance floor.''

Triad gangs control many of the colony's popular martial arts schools, provide most of the bouncers for nightclubs and many of the extras in Hong Kong kung fu movies, the police said. 'Kung Fu Stars Are Straight'

''The big kung fu stars here are straight,'' said Mr. Merritt, ''but a lot of the extras are triad members. They are the ones who practice martial arts in big numbers.''



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You didn't actually read that before you posted it, did you. Idiot child.
 
Crime Gangs Exercise Vast Power in Hong Kong

Yan Sui Kuen was only 10 years old when, in a secret midnight ceremony on a Hong Kong rooftop, he swore eternal allegiance to a triad, one of the colony's infamous organized crime gangs.

Eleven young people were initiated that hot summer night, each one pricking his middle finger and squeezing drops of blood into a cup. After the blood was mixed with water, each youngster drank from the cup, as 40 adult triad members, wearing white headbands, watched beneath the group's brilliant red banner.

''The ceremony was very long,'' Mr. Yan, now 42, recalled. ''They read many lessons and made us swear to many things.''

The gangs are called triads because their mystic literature emphasizes a three-way relationship among heaven, earth, and man. But there is nothing fanciful about the fear they create among the people on whom they prey - the poorest of Hong Kong's 5.6 million people. Fear of Exported Gangs

Now, as Chinese stream from Hong Kong to avoid the Communist takeover in 1997, the countries accepting large numbers of these new settlers fear that Hong Kong is exporting its gangs.

''We're on the phone every day now with one police department or another wanting to know about triads,'' complained a senior Royal Hong Kong Police official. ''We don't believe there is a mass exodus of triad members from Hong Kong, but everybody out there is worried and nervous.'

Triads trace their roots back to 17th-century China, and although they call their leaders by traditional titles, such as White Paper Fan and Red Pole, they dominate many of the rough-and-tumble criminal businesses in modern Hong Kong.

Hong Kong's 15 or so active triad gangs have an estimated 20,000 members in the colony, where they have a virtual monopoly on extortion rackets, collecting payoffs from small newsstands and huge construction companies alike. Most Powerful Gangs

Their power has even attracted the attention of China's leaders. Four years ago, around the time Britain agreed to the 1997 transfer, the Chinese leader, Deng Xiaoping, observed, ''Illegal gangs in Hong Kong are very powerful, perhaps much more powerful than their counterparts in any other place.'

The gangs can be crude and brutal. Last July a triad hit man wielding a meat cleaver hacked a Hong Kong businessman to death in a tennis court parking lot in front of stunned women and children. Days earlier, police said, the man had been sent the severed head of a black dog as a warning.

Last week, in what police believe was a revenge killing, a young Chinese hairdresser having a snack in a convenience store was attacked by seven triad gang members using barbecue forks and broken bottles. The police said when they arrived the forks were still imbedded in the victim's face and body.

Triads can also be sophisticated and businesslike: the police say white-collar enterprises sometimes insure their own safety by employing several triad members in their public-relations departments. Control of Bus Routes

Along with interests in loan sharking, illegal drug sales, pornography and prostitution, triads have virtually taken over the home-contracting business here and even control which buses are allowed to operate along some of Hong Kong's busiest streets, according to a report on the gangs.

It is not difficult to discern the triad touch in certain crimes, said Brian Merritt, chief staff officer of the police organized and serious crime group.

''If a restaurant owner won't pay up the first time he is asked,'' he said, ''the next day the triad will come back at his busiest hour, and 50 triad thugs will spread out and take up all his tables. If nightclubs don't pay, they like to toss live snakes on the dance floor.''

Triad gangs control many of the colony's popular martial arts schools, provide most of the bouncers for nightclubs and many of the extras in Hong Kong kung fu movies, the police said. 'Kung Fu Stars Are Straight'

''The big kung fu stars here are straight,'' said Mr. Merritt, ''but a lot of the extras are triad members. They are the ones who practice martial arts in big numbers.''



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Now let's bring this up to date.
Hong Kong population. Officially just over 7,000,000. Unofficially probably 7,500,000. Murders and manslaughters COMBINED 2007.......
.......
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a scandalous ......


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New York population 8,300,000 or there abouts. Not exactly the same but based on HK figures perhaps we might guess at what 41? 42?

what was the figure then? was it 50? Nope.

How about 70? Guess again.

OK 38 x 3 = 114? Nope.

How about...

....


....494

And that is not the final figure!
New York police stated:
"there were 494 recorded homicides in 2007, meaning that the city had so far logged fewer than 500 for the first time since reliable statistics became available 44 years ago. Last year, there were 596 homicides."

You have guns. We don't have guns. You have a little freedom. We have more freedom. You are rich, we are richer.
 
Now let's bring this up to date.
Hong Kong population. Officially just over 7,000,000. Unofficially probably 7,500,000. Murders and manslaughters COMBINED 2007.......
.......
.....
a scandalous ......


38


New York population 8,300,000 or there abouts. Not exactly the same but based on HK figures perhaps we might guess at what 41? 42?

what was the figure then? was it 50? Nope.

How about 70? Guess again.

OK 38 x 3 = 114? Nope.

How about...

....


....494

And that is not the final figure!
New York police stated:
"there were 494 recorded homicides in 2007, meaning that the city had so far logged fewer than 500 for the first time since reliable statistics became available 44 years ago. Last year, there were 596 homicides."

You have guns. We don't have guns. You have a little freedom. We have more freedom. You are rich, we are richer.

He is quoting an article that was written over 15 years ago, hasn't the Pony Express reached Arizona yet?
 
You're not making sense, as NOTHING I've previously stated regarding gun prices going down has to do with were I live. Somehow, in your convoluted logic, areas of residence warrant either praise or codemnation on any subject. You should really pay attention to what you say and what the response is. Well, you've already displayed ignorance as to my residence...and in true form, you don't have the maturity to acknowledge that. Instead, you stubbornly persist in pushing forth some absurd notion based on nothing but supposition and conjecture.

Continue to bray, jackass.
Big hissy by you to avoid answering a question.

I never dissed where you live, Libby, yet your brethren here disses the South all the time.
 
Give me a fucking break.

The neocon noise machine in collusion with the gun manufacturers and the NRA fog machine told gunners Obama's a socialist who's gonna take your guns and enslave you. Subsequently, gun sales went through the roof...and now the prices are going down AFTER the killing was made...and now people are realizing they've been had.

So it's just a huge noise that we elected a president with one of the worst voting record on guns rights in the past 50 years, whose campaign was partially funded by anti gun rights organizations, with a trend of EVERY new president (aside from Bush Jr) increasing anti gun rights regulation in the past 4 election cycles?
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
You're not making sense, as NOTHING I've previously stated regarding gun prices going down has to do with were I live. Somehow, in your convoluted logic, areas of residence warrant either praise or codemnation on any subject. You should really pay attention to what you say and what the response is. Well, you've already displayed ignorance as to my residence...and in true form, you don't have the maturity to acknowledge that. Instead, you stubbornly persist in pushing forth some absurd notion based on nothing but supposition and conjecture.

Continue to bray, jackass.

Big hissy by you to avoid answering a question.

I never dissed where you live, Libby, yet your brethren here disses the South all the time.

Stop lying jackass, no one but you and your stereo-typical David Duke revisionist clap trap disses the South. And I don't avoid any silliness you dish out...I just kick your sorry ass time after time.

Just Plain Politics! - View Single Post - Gun prices going down
 
And I maintain it was a legitimate concern for gun owners, especially with HR 1022 still on the table.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Give me a fucking break.

The neocon noise machine in collusion with the gun manufacturers and the NRA fog machine told gunners Obama's a socialist who's gonna take your guns and enslave you. Subsequently, gun sales went through the roof...and now the prices are going down AFTER the killing was made...and now people are realizing they've been had.

So it's just a huge noise that we elected a president with one of the worst voting record on guns rights in the past 50 years, whose campaign was partially funded by anti gun rights organizations, with a trend of EVERY new president (aside from Bush Jr) increasing anti gun rights regulation in the past 4 election cycles?

Please give proof and definition of "the worst voting record on gun rights in the past 50 years".

As for the rest of your supposition and conjecture....it changes NOT ONE FACT of the hysteria that the NRA and gun manufacturers generated for you idiots to go out and spend like crazy on guns...and NOTHING has come true regarding all your BS. You've been played for suckers...and you don't like it. Obama didn't play you....the folks you worship and trust did. Deal with it. :cof1:
 
Stop lying jackass, no one but you and your stereo-typical David Duke revisionist clap trap disses the South. And I don't avoid any silliness you dish out...I just kick your sorry ass time after time.
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Are you talking about the David Duke that started a group in college affiliated with the National Socialist White Peoples Party, ran the KKK between 1974-78, then ran as Democrat for the Louisiana State Senate in 1979, then as Democrat for president in 1988. That David Duke?

It seem that you two have more in common than I do with him, Libby. *shrug*
 
Would you like to point out, what you THINK I missed??

So you read it, understood that it was wildly out of date, understood that it actually said very little of substance but decided to post it anyway.
Yup. That's about par for the course.

Was it found by your Republican puppeteers?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
So you read it, understood that it was wildly out of date, understood that it actually said very little of substance but decided to post it anyway.
Yup. That's about par for the course.

Was it found by your Republican puppeteers?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So you're comment is how you refute an article. :palm:
Why not post something that shows I'm in error??
That is, if your Chinese masters will let you out of your tiny little room. :good4u:
 
So you're comment is how you refute an article. :palm:
Why not post something that shows I'm in error??
That is, if your Chinese masters will let you out of your tiny little room. :good4u:

Oh, you're not in error Dumbo. It's the rest of the world that is wrong.
Time to clean the van. Don't use tpo much water though will you? You might need it for the ............

well, you know what you might need it for, don'tcha, twat? I won't embarrass you again.
Game over. Vroom vroom.
 
the scared skinhead/teabaggers have all bought thier guns. Now the market is closer to just normal people.
 
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