Hamas Wants Guarantees Israel Won’t Assassinate Its Leaders Abroad

[evince]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna992381


Israel election scandal: Netanyahu's party hires 1,200 to secretly film Arabs voting
Recording in polling places is illegal and several people have been detained.

As Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu faces what is likely to be a tough re-election fight Tuesday, his Likud party has confirmed reports that it hired and gave cameras to 1,200 polling station observers in what it said was an effort to expose voter fraud, The Jerusalem Post reported.

The party's admission came after Central Elections Committee chairman Justice Hanan Melcer said earlier Tuesday it was illegal to secretly film voters casting ballots.


Earlier Tuesday, hidden cameras were captured in several Israeli Arab towns in the north and in one in the south. The Post reported a man was caught trying to hide a camera in a location in the southern city of Rahat in an attempt to disqualify a polling station. That incident led to about five people being detained in connection with the hidden cameras, The Post reported.


The left-wing Hadash Tal and Balad parties criticized the Likud for trying to secretly film voters.

Hadash Tal claimed "the extreme Right understands our power well in overthrowing the government and has crossed every border, using illegal means in an attempt to intervene and prevent Arab citizens from voting — but we, too, understand our strength."

 

[evince]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tri...l in the Jerusalem,2021 and from 2022 onwards.




The trial of Benjamin Netanyahu began following investigations into allegations of bribery, fraud, and breach of trust by him and close political allies within his inner circle during his fourth and fifth terms as Israel's Prime Minister. The Israel Police began investigating Netanyahu in December 2016 and subsequently recommended indictments against him. On 21 November 2019, Netanyahu was officially indicted for breach of trust, accepting bribes, and fraud, leading him to legally relinquish his ministry portfolios other than prime minister. Netanyahu's trial in the Jerusalem District Court began on 24 May 2020, with witness testimony starting on 5 April 2021. The prosecution listed 333 witnesses.[1] As of December 2023, the trial is still ongoing.[2][3]

 

[evince]

On December 5, 2023, trial judges agreed to reduce the number of court hearings to two days a week due to the security concerns related to the ongoing Israel-Hamas War.[3] At the end of December 2023, it was decided that the number of days would increase to four in February 2024.[58] In January they announced that there would be 3 days of discussions starting on the 22nd of that month.[59]

 

[IBDaMann]

Hamas military leaders, who also happen to be quasi-politicians are no different.

Do you mean criminals in the Al Qassam brigades? They are not Hamas leaders. If Israel wants to take out a Hamas leader then Israel needs to get a UN resolution by presenting their evidence. Israel does not have license to assassinate anyone they wish on a whim and then justify it with "He was a Hamas leader." Israel's claims don't mean squat. If Israel can show that a particular criminal participated in the attack on October 7th, then Israel needs to arrest that individual and bring him to trial where they can present their evidence. Israel does not get to assassinate first and them make up claims afterwards.

Israel doesn't need the UN's permission to wage a war

It is a flat out violation of the Geneva Conventions to kill someone who is not participating in hostilities. If you are going to regurgitate Israel's claim that he participated in the October 7th attack then Israel had the obligation to afford him a fair trial in which their evidence would have been presented, then when he was found guilty, they could execute him. Extrajudicial assassinations are clear violations of human rights as recognized by everyone except Team Israel. Team Israel, and you, are immoral shits.

 

[Nordberg]

This is a great idea. The guys who want to get promoted to the top can assassinate them and blame Israel.

 

[Nordberg]

By whom? There is no international court that has any real authority to do anything to some national leader. The UN is a meaningless debating society that's really a joke and has no teeth.

And so many of your fellow rightys have cried about it having too much power and making a one-world government. The UN is a place for deliberation. There is no other place like it. A nation can expose its grievances to all the world at once giving them information that is not known to them all. As long as the powerful nations can veto any actions , it will be powerless.

 

[Kamala Trump]

This is a great idea. The guys who want to get promoted to the top can assassinate them and blame Israel.

or israel can do it and blame the number two guys!

yay.

go false flags.

 

[Kamala Trump]

And so many of your fellow rightys have cried about it having too much power and making a one-world government. The UN is a place for deliberation. There is no other place like it. A nation can expose its grievances to all the world at once giving them information that is not known to them all. As long as the powerful nations can veto any actions , it will be powerless.

but aren't you a post-nationalist citizen of the world?

 

[Nordberg]

but aren't you a post-nationalist citizen of the world?

no

 

[Kamala Trump]

no

so you're a white supremacist nationalist jew hater?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

And so many of your fellow rightys have cried about it having too much power and making a one-world government. The UN is a place for deliberation. There is no other place like it. A nation can expose its grievances to all the world at once giving them information that is not known to them all. As long as the powerful nations can veto any actions , it will be powerless.

No, the UN is a farce where dictatorships, autocracies, theocracies, and other forms of oppressive government hold sway. It is a waste of time and is nothing but a worthless debating and drinking society.

 

[Nordberg]

No, the UN is a farce where dictatorships, autocracies, theocracies, and other forms of oppressive government hold sway. It is a waste of time and is nothing but a worthless debating and drinking society.

It is none of those things. The power in the UN is held by 5 big countries. What is wrong with discussing and debating? Are you used to following orders blindly? Of course you are, you are a Trumpy. The P5 are the US, China, France, Russia and China.
Discussion is a tool to prevent wars.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

It is none of those things. The power in the UN is held by 5 big countries. What is wrong with discussing and debating? Are you used to following orders blindly? Of course you are, you are a Trumpy. The P5 are the US, China, France, Russia and China.
Discussion is a tool to prevent wars.

China doesn't get two votes, the UK is the other member. In any case, one veto from any member ends any resolution. Outside of that, the General Assembly regularly passes asinine bullshit along political and other self-interest lines. Who can take an organization seriously that would say, put Saudi Arabia as the chair of their Women's Rights Commission, as but one example?

By the way, the UN has condemned Israel 14 times in 2021 alone with zero actual effect. In 2022 it was 15 times. The total is up to 227 times to date. The total effect of those condemnations is exactly ZERO. The UN is a fucking worthless debating and drinking society. To that effect, they even have their own bar and nightclub in the UN building.

 

[Nordberg]

China doesn't get two votes, the UK is the other member. In any case, one veto from any member ends any resolution. Outside of that, the General Assembly regularly passes asinine bullshit along political and other self-interest lines. Who can take an organization seriously that would say, put Saudi Arabia as the chair of their Women's Rights Commission, as but one example?

By the way, the UN has condemned Israel 14 times in 2021 alone with zero actual effect. In 2022 it was 15 times. The total is up to 227 times to date. The total effect of those condemnations is exactly ZERO. The UN is a fucking worthless debating and drinking society. To that effect, they even have their own bar and nightclub in the UN building.

Zero effect? You noticed it. However, you would have to live in a place that is not super pro-Israel to get fair information. Debating has value. It tells others of how your country and perhaps others feel about the problems. This is a debate board. You should stop posting.

 

[Walt]

That's not an assassination, dumbass. Under the Geneva Conventions, Russian generals, as well as all Russian military in Ukraine and Russia are valid military targets for Ukraine forces. It comes with being in the military. Israel simply assassinated a leader of Gaza without any UN resolution. Israel should be sanctioned heavily.

Hamas killed thousands of innocent civilians as an act of terrorism. Israel does not need to ask the UN permission to retaliate, anymore than Obama needed to ask the UN permission to kill Bin Laden.

 

[Kamala Trump]

Hamas killed thousands of innocent civilians as an act of terrorism. Israel does not need to ask the UN permission to retaliate, anymore than Obama needed to ask the UN permission to kill Bin Laden.

are the gazans israeli citizens tho?

 

[Walt]

are the gazans israeli citizens tho?

No, but they are civilians.

It is OK to kill civilians as part of a military operation, as long as there is a reasonable attempt to minimize civilian deaths. There is also a requirement that an occupying army try to feed the civilian population. There is a real argument to be made that Israel has not been working hard enough on either front.

 

[Kamala Trump]

No, but they are civilians.

It is OK to kill civilians as part of a military operation, as long as there is a reasonable attempt to minimize civilian deaths. There is also a requirement that an occupying army try to feed the civilian population. There is a real argument to be made that Israel has not been working hard enough on either front.

what nation are they citizens of?

what we need here is a land without a people for a people without a land.

isn't a war between two states?

 

[IBDaMann]

It is OK to kill civilians as part of a military operation,

Nope. Lawful noncombatants must be protected. Read the Geneva Conventions. This means that their protection must be incorporated into all operations. This absolutely prohibits air strikes into population centers, which the IDF has performed routinely every day. The Geneva Conventions also mandate special protections for women, and children under the age of fourteen, yet the IDF slaughters hundreds each week with nary a care.

There is also a requirement that an occupying army try to feed the civilian population. There is a real argument to be made that Israel has not been working hard enough on either front.

Far beyond that, the IDF has had the obligation to establish sufficient medical facilities for the population they invaded. Instead, the IDF has systematically destroyed all but two medical facilities (that are no longer operable) while not establishing sufficient of their own to accommodate all the wounded they created of those they were required to protect. Meanwhile, the IDF maintained a blockade intended to starve the remaining population that Israel was required to ensure has sufficient food and water.

 

[IBDaMann]

what nation are they citizens of? isn't a war between two states?

Good catch. It's not a war. It's Holocaust 2.0

Israel did not invade Iran because Israel is not interested in going to any war. Israel merely wishes to eradicate Arabs from the face of the earth and is using the claim of "going to war" to dog-whistle Team Israel.