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Damocles said:
Ours get plowed. But that is again an agreement between neighbors. Of course it really is in a city as well if you have representative government.

Roads and commodes, it is one of the valid functions of government, even when it is government "of the people"...
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Mine gets plowed because i pay the nearby farmer to do so. His plowing his own and takes it on down to the highway which is plowed. It sounds as if you live in a Socialist area that is very community oriented?
 
katiegrrl0 said:
I do not think that government should be involved in the private rights of others. If a business would like to allow smoking so be it. There should be no policy such as that to control the decisions of the individuals rights. I also do not agree with the laws that require safety belts. That is up to the person. If the government would like to make all of it's facilities non smoking that is fine. But when you tell a person that they can't smoke on the sidewalk that is wrong. I think that if you want to go to a bar and don't smoke and that bar allows smoking you should have to bite the bullet or go elsewhere.
I am of the belief that the worker should work. I am not fond of the welfare state. If you do not work and are capable in some capacity of doing so you should. If you don't there is no subsidy. Thee is no hand out such as welfare. The state or nation should provide job services that are useful in matching a person with employment. There are industries that fail and people need to be retrained and given the opportunity to move on and continue working.
There should be a state or national day care system to allow mums that would like to work that chance. Why should having children be a hardship? I think that National Health Care is something that every nation provides. Not just for a select few like elderly, veterans or disabled. It would keep costs down help keep the state healthy. A healthy state is a state that works and the more people at work the better it is for all of us.
I don't think unemployment should last any longer than a month. I believe that when out of work people are far to selective and willing to sit on their hands and wait because the money keeps rolling in.
All workers should be unionized giving them the best bargaining position so that the CEO are not making 10000 X an hour what they are making. The difficulties with many economies is that the top end is getting far to heavy for the lower level employees to support. I see the US as systematically wiping out the middle class. That class is what made the US what it once was. I hope that gives you some idea of what I am about.
Leftist is usually what I would be thought to be. But not necessarily in you definition.
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Oh oh, you support unions. Duck and cover!
 
Damocles said:
That's how streets get paved out where I live, people in our area usually vote with me though and the street remains unpaved.
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Reminds me of a place my Dad had up north. An old military radar base composed of 120 homes. Reminded me of a section of a suburb set in the middle of nowhere. A group of people bought it and sold the individual houses. All services were stopped (water, roads, etc). People had to put in their own well and the group paid some local guy to fill in the pot holes with gravel. Most of the residents were seasonal hunters.

Sort of like a cabin in the bush except the houses were like city houses. Unfortunately, part of the trip was 120 miles on logging road. HA! Not exactly a week-end place.
 
King of Guns said:
Does all workers include supervisors?
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Yes all workers should be united to help each other to make fair and living wages. Only those that would be considered the owner class would be excluded in this scenario. It would be different if all business was employee owned and operated as there would be no owner class. I also believe that many commodities should never be in the private sector such as oil. This are intrinsic to all of us and should not be allowed to be manipulated by speculation and desire for profit margin.
 
katiegrrl0 said:
Yes all workers should be united to help each other to make fair and living wages. Only those that would be considered the owner class would be excluded in this scenario. It would be different if all business was employee owned and operated as there would be no owner class. I also believe that many commodities should never be in the private sector such as oil. This are intrinsic to all of us and should not be allowed to be manipulated by speculation and desire for profit margin.
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So business owners don't work essentially?
 
katiegrrl0 said:
I do not think that government should be involved in the private rights of others. If a business would like to allow smoking so be it. There should be no policy such as that to control the decisions of the individuals rights. I also do not agree with the laws that require safety belts. That is up to the person. If the government would like to make all of it's facilities non smoking that is fine. But when you tell a person that they can't smoke on the sidewalk that is wrong. I think that if you want to go to a bar and don't smoke and that bar allows smoking you should have to bite the bullet or go elsewhere.
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Wow, a liberal understands what one of our hardcore conservatives does not.

Welcome Katie.
 
katiegrrl0 said:
Some do. some don't shareholders are the larger problem. If you get rid of them it would be a boon to the entire globe.
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So people who provide capital to businesses, essentially people who finance every operation that has been undertaken in the 20th century, are the problem. Noted.
 
katiegrrl0 said:
Mine gets plowed because i pay the nearby farmer to do so. His plowing his own and takes it on down to the highway which is plowed. It sounds as if you live in a Socialist area that is very community oriented?
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I live among libertarians.
 
King of Guns said:
So people who provide capital to businesses, essentially people who finance every operation that has been undertaken in the 20th century, are the problem. Noted.
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I believe that there are ways of doing this where huge amounts of profits are not drawn from the workers in a systematic fashion. The profit margin not only steals from the worker but the consumer as well. In a way it is stealing from the worker twice. It lowers his or her wages and also costs that same person more when product is purchased. The double whammy so to speak. The shareholder produces nothing from his or her own sweat besides profits ad nauseam. It comes at the fate of the labourer.
 
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