How OBL bankrupted the US

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After 911 Americans were asking the right question, "Why do they hate us?".





Tzu's famous dictum was "know yourself" and "know your enemy." Jujitsu is based upon using your enemy's strength against him, e.g., like Jack in "Jack and the Beanstalk," who used the giant's own size and anger to get him to crash from his own weight. Bin Laden understood that the way to beat America was to turn its power back upon itself. His early stated aim was to bankrupt America. He knew his own weaknesses, and he profoundly understood America's, how its pride and fears could trigger irrational, self-destructive reactions.

The genius of bin Laden's pinprick attacks, costing a few hundred thousand dollars, has left America reeling with two unending multi-trillion-dollar wars it doesn't know how to get out of. He knew that his own strength was mainly in his appeal to the minds of men, particularly to the lost dignity of Muslims trampled under the heel of their own dictators, Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, and America's military. Getting rid of the "far" enemy was the way to take on the "near" ones.

Instigating America to destroy Iraq was a triumph of genius. He must have known about the neoconservative cabal in Washington that was itching to start wars and destroy Iraq. In bin Laden's wildest dreams he then imagined that he could get an enraged America to destroy his enemies while, at the same time, isolating itself from allies and becoming seriously weakened. His prime Arab enemy, secular nationalist socialism, was embodied by the Ba'athist rulers in Iraq. Once destroyed, Muslim resistance could be channeled to religious fundamentalism as the only remaining force honest and profound enough to challenge Arab dictators and American soldiers successfully. In that sense he was allied with Israel, again an intelligent strategy of harnessing his enemies' strength, which, for different reasons, feared Iraq as the most modern, secular nation among the Arabs far more than it feared Muslim fundamentalists. Indeed, in Palestine, Israel built up Islamist Hamas at first as a counterforce to the secular PLO. Successful terrorists come from the well educated, not from fundamentalist fanatics.
 
The entire world watched as he did this to Russia.

Then some of you did all you could to help him do it to the US.
 
The entire world watched as he did this to Russia.

Then some of you did all you could to help him do it to the US.

Bin Laden didn't do it to Russia .. we did. We used Bin Laden to accomplish our goals, and without the US, the specter of Bin Laden would not have been successful.

And, Bin Laden did not do this to the US. Even if one believes the fairy-tale, Bin Laden did not force us into Iraq, did not re-elect George Bush, did not turn the US government over to corporations. did not create the false instuments of mortgage, and did not elect Barack Obama who intends to keep chasing ghosts/terrorists into Afghanistan and Pakistan.
 
Russia was going to fail. It was just a matter of time. OBL knew this and knew that a few years of money bleeding in Afganistan would tip the balance. The Russian system was unworkable in the long term.


We added to the pain but it was the system itself that died its inevitable death with OBL urging it to a quicker death.


Then we the neocons were so stupid they didnt learn the lesson. Thank the powers that be we have a system that can work if allowed to do so. Socialism is not the answer. Capitolism tempered with good regulations and fair mangement is workable in the long term.
 
You are a wise man US.

The kids here do benifit from your smarts even if they dont yet realize it.
 
name one thing that OBL did to cause our financial burdens...we were soaring pretty high until the house bubble burst...i guarantee you that started long before obl...

he is not responsible for a single economic strain we have.
 
not afganistan or obl...are you telling me the nearly 2 trillion dollars in bailout money is obl's fault?

is there anything you can cite that obl did to bankrupt us?

You're kidding, right?

Do you know how much Iraq will cost us when all is said & done?

Use your head.
 
In Afghanistan we armed the mujahideen with weapons at a minimum to shoot down the air raids.

An as far as OBL I would say its FAR more likely he didn't plan for us to retaliate the way we did. Nor did he have some future insight that we would be in financial ruin as a result of a terrorist attack.
 
i think a rough estimate of the iraq war is about 3 trillion...and the housing bubble and stock market (mostly housing in my opinion) is costing us about 2 trillion...
 
i think a rough estimate of the iraq war is about 3 trillion...and the housing bubble and stock market (mostly housing in my opinion) is costing us about 2 trillion...

Yeah; and nothing is interconnected in the American economy. The spending in Iraq lives in some sort of vacuum.

You're a really smart guy.
 
Yeah; and nothing is interconnected in the American economy. The spending in Iraq lives in some sort of vacuum.

You're a really smart guy.

obl CAUSED gwb to invade iraq???? and here i thought you said it wasn't about AQ...i bet you said it was about oil or something.

also explain how were fine until the housing bubble burst....did obl cause that?

i see you also cannot provide ONE single thing that obl, himself, did to cause our economic situation....
 
obl CAUSED gwb to invade iraq???? and here i thought you said it wasn't about AQ...i bet you said it was about oil or something.

also explain how were fine until the housing bubble burst....did obl cause that?

i see you also cannot provide ONE single thing that obl, himself, did to cause our economic situation....

OBL's STATED GOAL is to bankrupt the West. It's the only viable option for terrorists, because they don't have the kind of army or conventional military to challenge the U.S.

I don't think OBL knew exactly what would happen after 9/11, but I can guarantee you that our decision to invade Iraq probably exceeded his expectations. A protracted war, that is enflaming the Middle East & benefitting AQ recruitment, that is costing the U.S. trillions. Add to that the cost of all of the anti-terror measures we now have to take, the money going into border security, the extra checks at airports...this is the goal of terrorism.

I'm not making a judgment on it, or saying what is right & what isn't - though I think my feelings on Iraq are well known- but it's naive & fairly stupid to say that OBL & 9/11 haven't caused the U.S. to make decisions and act in ways that have depleted our finances & affected our economy. Are we "bankrupt"? No, but we are more in debt than ever, and our financial standing in the world has rarely been worse.

If I'm OBL, I'm pretty pleased with how things turned out.
 
OBL's STATED GOAL is to bankrupt the West. It's the only viable option for terrorists, because they don't have the kind of army or conventional military to challenge the U.S.

I don't think OBL knew exactly what would happen after 9/11, but I can guarantee you that our decision to invade Iraq probably exceeded his expectations. A protracted war, that is enflaming the Middle East & benefitting AQ recruitment, that is costing the U.S. trillions. Add to that the cost of all of the anti-terror measures we now have to take, the money going into border security, the extra checks at airports...this is the goal of terrorism.

I'm not making a judgment on it, or saying what is right & what isn't - though I think my feelings on Iraq are well known- but it's naive & fairly stupid to say that OBL & 9/11 haven't caused the U.S. to make decisions and act in ways that have depleted our finances & affected our economy. Are we "bankrupt"? No, but we are more in debt than ever, and our financial standing in the world has rarely been worse.

If I'm OBL, I'm pretty pleased with how things turned out.

Its not helping arab muslims. they are hurting financial bigtime and way more then us. They actually think the global financial melt down is a conspiracy plot by the Jews to gain more control on the rebound. If that was tru OBL just got owned.

EDIT: read up on Rothschild
 
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