It may come as a shock but I would love nothing better than to see this forum come together politically

[Ross Dolan]

Things are off to a poor start.

This is your thread, Stone...you have got to take it by the balls and lead it in the proper direction.

 

[Earl]

Maria Bartiromo is the most attractive financial commentator in the country.

How is that for off topic?

My older son stirred up a firestorm when he said that and his wife heard it.

I would also posit that Pam Bondi is the most attractive A/G in US history.

It is apparent that Republican women are far more attractive than Democratic women, no contest.

Dare I say that most Democrats in politics are dogs…yes, I do dare say it.

 

[Earl]

Your premise is foolish. No one "comes here...in the spirit of working together". That is not what any debate forum is for. We should come here, however, in a spirit of reasonableness, a spirit that requires rational argument. Instead, and especially from your side, the "spirit" more often is one of hard feelings and an urge for personal insult.

Does rational argument including shooting a president or fire-bombing cars and car dealerships?

 

[TOP]

Your premise is foolish. No one "comes here...in the spirit of working together". That is not what any debate forum is for. We should come here, however, in a spirit of reasonableness, a spirit that requires rational argument. Instead, and especially from your side, the "spirit" more often is one of hard feelings and an urge for personal insult.

I think you might have that last sentence backwards... Just saying...

 

[Earl]

Democrats own violence in America.

They burned large parts of America to the ground during the one year plus riots by BLM and ANTIFA.

Now, they are fire bombing Teslas and Tesla dealerships.

 

[christiefan915]

I will,..thanks. Im just now FINALLY starting to get over a bad head cold and don't really need to be taking part in much negativity today. Thread isnt going how I intended and Im not going to fight it....too tired. I AM going to take part in my life long hobby today though,....Ive been and NFL draftnik since I was a kid,...pretty dang good at it too if I don't say so myself. It's a hobby I enjoy. Gonna have some fun with it today on line. For any football fans out there let me give you a couple of tips that TOP will most likely be a big fan of.....

1.....The best receiver in this draft is actually the kid from Ohio State,...Egbuka. A real pros pro he will be.

2...The Tom Brady of this draft comes from the same school,....Ohio State. Will Howard. The kid wont be taken till the 4th round but three years from now will end up being a better QB then all the 1st rounders taken this year. All he does is win,...selfless.

Who are the Steelers finally going to pick for QB? This has been a real drag.

 

[christiefan915]

If you are a male who likes to wear dresses and high heels knock your lights out and go for it. Just stay out of women's spaces because you aren't a woman. And if you want to play sports stay out of women's sports.

If you're a woman should you stay out of "men's" sports?

 

[TOP]

If you're a Biological female, you should not be Participating
on a male team... That's a pretty simple concept...

 

[TOP]

I believe the trans issue in sports is common ground... If people are honest...

 

[Earl]

If you're a Biological female, you should not be Participating
on a male team... That's a pretty simple concept...

Indeed.

I don’t know of women competing in men’s sports but if there are, they are at a very large disadvantage.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If you want the same,....then by all means post your SERIOUS views and ideas here. But if you come to cause trouble or to troll then PLEASE stay out. Let's see if we can find common ground today,...Im betting there is a lot more than most of us think. ALL are welcome if they come with an open mind and in the spirit of working together. If a small political forum like this cant do it then this country/world is surely done for. Don't let YOU be the one who blows this chance .

The board can't come together until the nation comes together. I don't see that happening anytime soon.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Common ground can be found, suggest some.

We all want to be able to (as GWB would say it) "put food on our families". We can start there. We want the same result, the main difference we have is in how to get there. We want everyone in the US to be able to afford food for their family.

Where you will find disagreement in agreement (we agree food for families = good) is in the "how"... Should we all get together and socialize this? Should we focus on economic growth so everyone who wants a job can get one? Should we open our borders so that folks some think are going to pick our vegetables will rush in to sell fentanyl, traffic our children, and fill up cheap housing in population centers with the victims of trafficking thus making food "cheap" in the most inefficient way possible? And there you will have a brawl... in "agreement" you will find the disagreement.

We all want fair elections. Another point of agreement that is actually contention in the "how" of it.

Almost all disagreement in politics will be in the path to success for each of the points of agreement. We start with agreement....

Justice. We all want justice... What is the right path to it? Is it getting rid of cash bail? Is it doubling cash bail for violent offences?

I think you get the idea.

Damo, you may hold a very high card in how something like Stone's idea can take place. If you have read the comments, as I have, it would be obvious that there are people here who have no intention to even give the notion of some kind of mutual accommodation being made to get us all working in a direction that might work.

Whose people cannot be allowed to interfere with a reasonable, intelligent, moderately respectful attempt to achieve the aim Stone has.

YOU can see that those people are eliminated from the conversation...and well they should.

Anyone showing actual disdain for the intentions mentioned in the OP should be shown the door. Maybe one warning, but if a warning is necessary, probably a warning is not even appropriate.

I'd love for this discussion to take place.

Will you help?

 

[TOP]

Damo, you may hold a very high card in how something like Stone's idea can take place. If you have read the comments, as I have, it would be obvious that there are people here who have no intention to even give the notion of some kind of mutual accommodation being made to get us all working in a direction that might work.

Whose people cannot be allowed to interfere with a reasonable, intelligent, moderately respectful attempt to achieve the aim Stone has.

YOU can see that those people are eliminated from the conversation...and well they should.

Anyone showing actual disdain for the intentions mentioned in the OP should be shown the door. Maybe one warning, but if a warning is necessary, probably a warning is not even appropriate.

I'd love for this discussion to take place.

Will you help?

It would be lovely if he could....

 

[Uncensored2008]

How about wanting secure borders?

Open borders are not secure.

 

[Earl]

It’s already been demonstrated that Stone was tilting at windmills.

An “E” for effort though.

Why would any patriotic American want accommodation with far left loons who have Socialists in their party and want the destruction of Capitalism and the reduction in the quality of life in America for our children and grandchildren.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The violence is not our fault.

The other reason no common ground can be found is the refusal of too many on both sides to take responsibility for their own actions.

 

[Earl]

It appears that at least one far left octogenarian has finally seen the finite limits of life and, after calling the Right Fascists and Hitler and cheering the attempt on President Trump’s life and the firebombing of Musk’s car and Tesla dealerships, has seen the light…when donkeys fly.

 

[Uncensored2008]

It all goes back to the morals issue. Fix the morals,...everything else falls in line.

You are absolutely correct.

We at one time had a common set of moral values derived from a common source. The quest to destroy this nation rests heavily on the destruction of the common morals, values, and culture that used to unite us. The goal of unchecked and unregulated mass migration is to destroy those common bonds. Hatched by the Soviets and put into play by Ted Kennedy in 1965 on their behalf. It is the destruction of common bonds that have led us directly to the situation we are in.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You are not doing it right as per the OP's wish.

The border is not common ground. It is something that sharply divides us.

Jerri Ryan was common ground between us.

A 1959 Les Paul Goldtop will unite guitar players.

 

[Damocles]

Damo, you may hold a very high card in how something like Stone's idea can take place. If you have read the comments, as I have, it would be obvious that there are people here who have no intention to even give the notion of some kind of mutual accommodation being made to get us all working in a direction that might work.

Whose people cannot be allowed to interfere with a reasonable, intelligent, moderately respectful attempt to achieve the aim Stone has.

YOU can see that those people are eliminated from the conversation...and well they should.

Anyone showing actual disdain for the intentions mentioned in the OP should be shown the door. Maybe one warning, but if a warning is necessary, probably a warning is not even appropriate.

I'd love for this discussion to take place.

Will you help?

If you want it to go that way you should begin by putting it in APP.