Jan 6th will just be one part of the next indictment

floridafan said:
A lot of people in the media have referred to Jack Smith's "Jan. 6th investigation," but it is clear that the likely incoming indictment against Donald Trump is about a lot more than just that day's insurrection attempt, former White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said on Saturday.

"Trump engaged in a sprawling and systematic effort to steal the 2020 election. We have heard and seen evidence that these efforts included defrauding the American public, subverting democratic institutions and coordinating a pressure campaign at the local, state and federal level to overturn the will of the people."

Trump and those who support him tried to "co-opt the Justice Department for political purposes," according to Psaki. "They submitted fake elector slates, recruiting and directing Trump supporters to forge paperwork and falsify information. They created a massive and allegedly fraudulent fundraising campaign to solicit donations based upon a lie."

After all of that is when Trump allowed the mob to take over the Capitol.
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if only indictments were convictions
 
Hello Tinkerpeach,

Tinkerpeach said:
Humans cannot destroy the planet.

They may only destroy their own existence but that's about it.
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It is essentially the same thing as far as humans are concerned.

Humans need to be organized under one powerful world government of the people, by the people and for the people with strong provisions to prevent being corrupted by big money like the American government is. The new world government should be tasked with preserving and improving life for all humans. All things are possible when we get organized and put good minds to the task.
 
floridafan said:
A lot of people in the media have referred to Jack Smith's "Jan. 6th investigation," but it is clear that the likely incoming indictment against Donald Trump is about a lot more than just that day's insurrection attempt, former White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said on Saturday.

"Trump engaged in a sprawling and systematic effort to steal the 2020 election. We have heard and seen evidence that these efforts included defrauding the American public, subverting democratic institutions and coordinating a pressure campaign at the local, state and federal level to overturn the will of the people."

Trump and those who support him tried to "co-opt the Justice Department for political purposes," according to Psaki. "They submitted fake elector slates, recruiting and directing Trump supporters to forge paperwork and falsify information. They created a massive and allegedly fraudulent fundraising campaign to solicit donations based upon a lie."

After all of that is when Trump allowed the mob to take over the Capitol.
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Who will be indicted along with him?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Tinkerpeach,



It is essentially the same thing as far as humans are concerned.

Humans need to be organized under one powerful world government of the people, by the people and for the people with strong provisions to prevent being corrupted by big money like the American government is. The new world government should be tasked with preserving and improving life for all humans. All things are possible when we get organized and put good minds to the task.
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There are too many cultures and histories for the world to be under one government.
 
Hello Tinkerpeach,

Tinkerpeach said:
If Trump didn't pay a law firm they wouldn't assign him lawyers.

If you've ever had to hire a lawyer you know you pay up front.
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Trump goes through lawyers like water goes down a drain.

Lawyers sometimes work no fee if they believe they can get part of a settlement or notoriety for defending a famous person, make a name for themselves.

Sadly, though, lawyers working for Trump need their own lawyers. Trump does not respect the law. He urges people to do illegal things like J6. He told the dangerous angry mob he had assembled if they didn't fight like hell they wouldn't have a country any more.

Trump was wrong. He got them to commit crimes and it didn't work. And guess what. We still have a country. Trump lied to them. That's what Trump does.

Trump is a liar. Anyone who supports him is either mistaken or has an ulterior motive, wants to disrupt American peace and freedom. American enemies do that.

Putin helped Trump get elected. Iran and North Korea hate America.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
If Trump didn't pay a law firm they wouldn't assign him lawyers.

If you've ever had to hire a lawyer you know you pay up front.
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Only a retainer, if you are an honest person, the rest is billed by the hour or paperwork filed from my experience. Trump pays up front because he has a reputation of stiffing lawyers and contractors.
 
Hello Tinkerpeach,

Tinkerpeach said:
There are too many cultures and histories for the world to be under one government.
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Many great things seemed impossible - until they happened.

Humans are really the same inside.

Citizens in every country want to live in peace. It's the messed up leaders who cause all the wars.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Tinkerpeach,



Many great things seemed impossible - until they happened.

Humans are really the same inside.

Citizens in every country want to live in peace. It's the messed up leaders who cause all the wars.
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Leaders are also citizens so your statement is false.
 
Phantasmal said:
Only a retainer, if you are an honest person, the rest is billed by the hour or paperwork filed from my experience. Trump pays up front because he has a reputation of stiffing lawyers and contractors.
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The point is that Trump would be relying on public defenders if he didn't pay his lawyers.

So yes, he pays them regardless of what the left claims.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Tinkerpeach,



Trump goes through lawyers like water goes down a drain.

Lawyers sometimes work no fee if they believe they can get part of a settlement or notoriety for defending a famous person, make a name for themselves.

Sadly, though, lawyers working for Trump need their own lawyers. Trump does not respect the law. He urges people to do illegal things like J6. He told the dangerous angry mob he had assembled if they didn't fight like hell they wouldn't have a country any more.

Trump was wrong. He got them to commit crimes and it didn't work. And guess what. We still have a country. Trump lied to them. That's what Trump does.

Trump is a liar. Anyone who supports him is either mistaken or has an ulterior motive, wants to disrupt American peace and freedom. American enemies do that.

Putin helped Trump get elected. Iran and North Korea hate America.
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Any defendent will change lawyers depending on what's happening in their case.

You want people that specialize in the issues you are facing, not just a general lawyer.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
The point is that Trump would be relying on public defenders if he didn't pay his lawyers.

So yes, he pays them regardless of what the left claims.
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You can only get a public defender or court appointed attorney if you can’t afford an attorney. Trump has to money.
 
Tinkerpeach said:
By definition a riot is not organized dumbshit.
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A mob isn't organized but mob leaders can be. Ever heard of the Chicago Seven, Tink? Trump telling his militias to stand forward and march on the Capitol?

Why do you think the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers were so organized and ready to go on 1/6?
 
Doc Dutch said:
A mob isn't organized but mob leaders can be. Ever heard of the Chicago Seven, Tink? Trump telling his militias to stand forward and march on the Capitol?

Why do you think the Proud Boys and Oathkeepers were so organized and ready to go on 1/6?
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He told them to do it peacefully.

Why do you guys always leave that part out?
 
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