Judge orders stop to release of Trump documents

[Celticguy]

Biden is president. No idea what you're babbling about.

event in question was on Jan 6. Biden was not president yet. Swearing in didnt happen till weeks later.

 

[Walt]

a president elect is not a president until he's sworn in. wrong again.

You really should have trump go with that claim, "I am still president, because Biden was never sworn in."

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

history dictates that anything during his presidency could be protected

You're whistling in the dark.

United States v. Nixon, 1974, was a landmark United States Supreme Court case that resulted in a unanimous decision against President Richard Nixon, ordering him to deliver tape recordings and other subpoenaed materials to a federal district court. United States v. Nixon is considered a crucial precedent limiting the power of any U.S. president to claim executive privilege.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Nixon

That was when Nixon actually was president. The Chief Justice and two others were his appointees. And he lost the case unanimously.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

You're whistling in the dark.

United States v. Nixon, 1974, was a landmark United States Supreme Court case that resulted in a unanimous decision against President Richard Nixon, ordering him to deliver tape recordings and other subpoenaed materials to a federal district court. United States v. Nixon is considered a crucial precedent limiting the power of any U.S. president to claim executive privilege.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Nixon

That was when Nixon actually was president. The Chief Justice and two others were his appointees. And he lost the case unanimously.

that's why I used the word 'COULD'.............

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Damo,

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/11/politics/trump-motion-documents/index.html

A federal appeals court on Thursday granted former President Donald Trump's request to pause the release of key White House records from his presidency to the House select committee investigating the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, as he appeals a lower court's decision that he can't claim executive privilege to keep them secret.

My take on it...

It's procedural:

""The purpose of this administrative injunction is to protect the court's jurisdiction to address appellant's claims of executive privilege and should not be construed in any way as a ruling on the merits," the panel wrote in a two-page order."

Trump's lawyers probably knew they could get this short extension of the inevitable, so they waited until the last minute, as the records were to begin being turned over today.

They bought a little time, that's all.

Gotta see that justice is being done.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello BartenderElite,

I think most 2021 conservatives would cheer at a public burning of the Constitution, as long as they felt it would benefit Trump and "stick it to liberals."

Certainly the Trump Party would.

They have already sold out their values.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Geeko Sportivo,

This is not the first time Trump has taken our nation into unprecedented waters. That was an everyday event during his administration- and he is still challenging our norms after leaving office.

Of course Donald Trump is just seeing what he can get by with- testing our legal system, testing the powers of the Senate, and our justice department- TESTING OUR SUPREME COURT! But his get-out-of-jail-free card has expired when he lost his executive privileges- due to him being such a bad president- his own party had to help the nation vote him out of office. So all he can do now is just stall the many courts, and ongoing investigations into his corrupt past and controversial presidential administration years. He thinks if he can stall them for another 3 years- he can elect himself president again or something. If there were a trick in the book, He has already tried using it- it didn't work. So his reign of terror is ALL about to come to an end.

Donald Trump is about to hit a wall like a bug hitting the windshield at 100 MPH!

The courts are non-partial, so they have to make sure that they review the issues at hand, before they go and rule on something- that before Trump we had no previous precedent for. We've never really had such a corrupted criminally insane president before.

But trust me- Congress will get whatever they ask for, as Trump's executive privileges are GONE! Up In Smoke! Notta! KAPUTT!

And the courts will agree!

So no! Trump didn't get by with anything! In fact, he is just digging himself a bigger hole!

Donald Trump will be lucky to stay out of jail!

If justice is done, and those wheels turn very slowly, Donald Trump will go to prison. He is a very bad man. Our country needs to see that justice is done and that Trump can't get away with all the crimes he has committed.

Fraud, Tax evasion, Insurrection.

What a piece of work.

Is he above the law?

America needs to know.

 

[martin]

Yes, even Trump has rights.

He isn't claiming a personal right. Why is it some Americans feel a government official should be shielded from the public for actions taken in their name, even after he has left office, even when the action is connected to a violation of the public trust whether or not it proves to be part of the violation?

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello archives,

Now of this means anything, if we have seen anything it is that Trump can get away with anything, January 6th proved that fact, even if found guilty of something, an entire political party plus major news network will reframe it to appear Trump was victimized

All of them, Trump, Bannon, Meadows, etc, will appeal, delay, and postpone everything knowing the GOP appears ready to recapture the House, then, the little Jimmy Jordans will drop this and immediately start investigations into Hunter Bidden

Yeah, we'll see about that.

The final chapter in the Trump American horror story has not been written.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Nordberg,

It is just a pause, It will all come out.

I share that faith.

 

[PoliTalker]

I am a bit surprised Trump even has lawyers.

If I was a lawyer I wouldn't work for somebody who is notorious for not paying.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Taichiliberal,

yep, all those Bob Jones University grads that the Shrub stocked up the Circuit Courts with is paying off for the GOP of Cheeto Jeezus! God help us all.

No. The judges are simply following the law. Making sure there is no legal objection. It's procedural. The Trump lawyers knew it. That's why they waited until the last minute. The judges have expedited the case. They are going to hear the arguments very quickly as far as the wheels of justice turn. They are making sure that Trump has no case which could be taken up by the SCOTUS.

 

[martin]

Really.

If a goal of the Commission is, as it should be, to get enough evidence to persuade the public of Trump's personal complicity in the attempted assault on Congress itself, not only the Capitol building, the documents may be that evidence.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Yes, even Trump has rights.

Correct, but not a right to malfeasance, treason or any other criminal activity then use his former office to cover it up.

We're not talking about Trump's private love letters to Ivanka or his pedo pics. We're talking about official government documents.

We, the People have a RIGHT to know what our leaders are doing.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Hello Taichiliberal,



No. The judges are simply following the law. Making sure there is no legal objection. It's procedural. The Trump lawyers knew it. That's why they waited until the last minute. The judges have expedited the case. They are going to hear the arguments very quickly as far as the wheels of justice turn. They are making sure that Trump has no case which could be taken up by the SCOTUS.

Well said and agreed.

Not sure if this won't end up in SCOTUS or not, but the crocodile tears about Trump's "privacy" to cover up a coup attempt are bullshit.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello gemini104104,

What's the hold up and what makes tRump so special at being at the brink of obstructing justice for his tyrannical hide?

They are just making sure that when Trump is put away that justice is done.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Dutch,

Correct, but not a right to malfeasance, treason or any other criminal activity then use his former office to cover it up.

We're not talking about Trump's private love letters to Ivanka or his pedo pics. We're talking about official government documents.

We, the People have a RIGHT to know what our leaders are doing.

Those records belong to we the people.

Trump was working for us.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Hello Dutch,



Those records belong to we the people.

Trump was working for us.

Agreed. As you already noted, this is strictly procedural. The Trump faction, like Bannon, is hoping to draw out justice until the 2022 election in hopes they can kill the investigation of treason with a Republican Congress.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Dutch Uncle,

Agreed. As you already noted, this is strictly procedural. The Trump faction, like Bannon, is hoping to draw out justice until the 2022 election in hopes they can kill the investigation of treason with a Republican Congress.

The January 6th investigation has until the end of 2022. Once the Republican Congress is seated that will be the end of it.

I wonder why Garland has not taken it up.

It's not political.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Hello Dutch Uncle,



The January 6th investigation has until the end of 2022. Once the Republican Congress is seated that will be the end of it.

I wonder why Garland has not taken it up.

It's not political.

IDK what is going on between lawyers and Congress. I do hope that our leaders would restore trust in government by acting responsibly, honestly and in the best interests of the nation.