Liberal Take on American Independence

well there are police killings and then their un-just police killings. Unarmed or not, people that flee put themselves at risk.
I'm no fan of rogue cops, but street justice is just that. and I'm not excusing it -cops need to face justice-
but if you wind up dead by fleeing...what did you expect?

But I agree cases like Sandra Bland are horrific, and all we can do is go after the cops.
Hopefully it gets better is my point on self-corrections. a few years ago we weren't even talking about it.

as to Trump? We're never going to agree he has some good ideas. Deportation on a mass scale is never going to happen.
Border security can be improved, but also this notion is out there that the US has an open border is
because we do not just turn people away without due process, and the due process winds up with ridiculous outcomes like
giving illegals summons to appear -along with a bus ticket to a relatives.. how stupid is that?

Illegal entry needs to be treated with the presumption that the entry means a prompt removal.
It's an insult to legal immigrants too -who go thru the process and enter lawfully.

Trump isn't helping though, I agree. his bellicosity makes the issues more difficult to solve

The cops don't get convicted, they shoot, ppl bitch, they walk... Maybe they write a book?? Sell the murder weapon?? Or just go back to work & "be more careful next time"....

You know, don't stand lingering over your kill, don't be observed planting evidence, you know just don't get caught
 
Abraham Lincoln. In July 1858, he spoke of the strength that Americans draw from pride in their forebears who founded the nation. Then he said words worth recalling in full as we celebrate our independence:

“We have besides these men — descended by blood from our ancestors — among us perhaps half our people who are not descendants at all of these men, they are men who have come from Europe — German, Irish, French and Scandinavian — men that have come from Europe themselves, or whose ancestors have come hither and settled here, finding themselves our equals in all things. If they look back through this history to trace their connection with those days by blood, they find they have none, they cannot carry themselves back into that glorious epoch and make themselves feel that they are part of us. But when they look through that old Declaration of Independence they find that those old men say that ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,’ and then they feel that that moral sentiment taught in that day evidences their relation to those men, that it is the father of all moral principle in them, and that they have a right to claim it as though they were blood of the blood, and flesh of the flesh, of the men who wrote that Declaration. And so they are.”
 
natives were doomed if not by Americans then the French or the Brits. The western white man did it.
You obviously haven't studied Frontier history of North America. That's simply not true. The French had a remarkable and peaceful relationship with the Natives and they often integrated with them and the French post colonial record in North America indicates strongly that they would not have dispossessed or militarily conquered Native Americans.

The article the OP links to is a joke meant to twist American nativist panties in a wad written by a conservative Tory apologist.

All three points made are wrong. In fact rediculously so. The Brits were as responsible for the genocide of Native Americans as the Americans are. The authors reference to Joseph Brant is particularly laughable. The Brits unethical, immoral, cowardly and disgusting betrayal of the Iroquois played a direct role in their Genocide.

In addition there is no evidence that the Brits would have ended slavery in the American south as the certainly did nothing to end it in the Haj or in their Middle Eastern or African colonies. The Brits would permitted its continued use as long as it allowed the production of cotton for British textile industry and the South would have remained an undeveloped, one product, colonial backwater.

His third argument is the most laughable. To think that the Brits weak proportional government could effectively run a Nation as large as the US is just fucking silly and the notion that a British style Constitutional Monarchy including the rigid and non-egalitarian British class system would somehow be better for America is only worth hoots of laughter as a response.

So you Nativist can relax and go change your panties. The article was an absurdity.
 
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