Guno צְבִי
We fight, We win
Which and who's Ten commandments
let me guess In jesusland
let me guess In jesusland
Louisiana Requires All Public Classrooms to Display Ten Commandments
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AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
I don't see anyone doing that. It's your imagination due to your hatred of the Left.
My point still stands. If the Founding Father's expressed concern, you'd post that meme. They fought to be independent from the Roman Catholic Church rule.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
No, they fought to be independent of the Church of England. In either case, they weren't against religion being displayed in public areas or things like the ten commandments being displayed in a public building. They were against a state-run church with some degree of mandatory participation.
First amendment does apply to States, and that is settled case law.
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
There you go. "...some degree of mandatory participation."
Children from various backgrounds are going to ask their teachers.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
Strawman fallacy.But, this sort of thing is just fine...
Yes, because the establishment clause doesn’t apply, but freedom of speech does.But, this sort of thing is just fine...
Sucks for you that’s the reality of it, doesn’t it?
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
No, both promote an agenda, one religious, the other political. We shouldn't have either in a classroom.
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
Except when a Christian student bothers them about it.
“Shouldn’t” doesn’t mean shit.
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
There's nothing political about people being who they are.
Yeah, I get that, but it’s much ado about nothing. After a short hubub, students won’t even notice it. Nevertheless, it still violates the 1st on establishment.
In early public grade school (early 1960s), I had a teacher who would read a Bible passage every day. Nobody paid a single bit of attention to it. To kids, even the Pledge is rote recitation without a thought to the meaning.
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
Good point. However it's a stepping stone.
NakedHunterBiden
“It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown”
How would the right respond to putting verses from the Quran in our schools? You do it for one then you will have to do it for all.
They will regret this.
They will regret this.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
There's everything political about plastering the whole classroom in LGBTPDQRSTUV+- whatever paraphernalia, flags, etc. and putting that agenda into lessons, particularly for children who are pre-pubescent.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
The Quran doesn't have a clear set of ten commandments in it. There are verses that together, scattered through it, might parallel the ten commandments, but no one verse or two does that.
I see no harm however in quoting some religious text or another, be it Christian, Islamic, Buddhist, or whatever where the quote conveys what virtually anyone would consider good values, like You cannot commit murder. Foisting heavy doses of any religion on schools should be avoided. There are religious schools for those parents that want their children to grow up in that environment, and we should have that choice too.
christiefan915
Catalyst
You like to focus on the symbol and not the meaning behind it. There's nothing wrong with trying to teach tolerance to kids in an age-appropriate way.But, this sort of thing is just fine...
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
MAGA heads would be on fire if you want to talk about overreactions.