Nelson Mandela
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Immanuel
Junior Member
Brent said:
Thanks a lot Beefy. It looks like I am no longer on his ignore list. I will repay your kindness in a most gruesome way.
Brent, when or if you read this. I don't hate you in any way. I was trying to get a point across. And I don't think I said you were a tool of the devil rather I said you acted like one. Big difference there in my books.
I'll go back and check.
Immie
Beefy
Worst gambler ever
maineman said:
Its all relative. Are you giving your house back to the indians? It can be extrapolated as an argument. Colonization is an ugly thing, and it leads to more ugliness. We are where we are because of such ugliness. Does that make sense?
*note, I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but on message boards it can look that way. Everything here is at face value.
maineman
Banned
it is all relative...my guess is that the pressure for me to give my house back to the indians would be significantly greater if native americans were the overwhelming majority of the population, don't you think? And the land in Maine where MY house is located was purchased from the Penobscot Indians
maineman
Banned
it would be different.... wouldn't it? If there were a handful of caucasians who had stolen the native american's land and were livin' large while millions and millions of native americans were subjegated as second class citizens, do you not think that there would be a different dynamic than we have here today?
and I answered your UN question.... did that clear that up for you?
and I answered your UN question.... did that clear that up for you?
Beefy
Worst gambler ever
maineman said:
Indeed it would be a different dynamic. Thanks for the answer. Its a funny thing about collectivist thought though isn't it. That the individual doesn;t matter that much, that you have to place a number on something for it to matter. That's a big difference between you and me.
At what point do the numbers outweigh the injustice?
Beefy
Worst gambler ever
maineman said:
My pal Dixie. Okay. Whatever.
My point is that your statements indicate that certain property issues become more pertinent with numbers. That the number of people behind a certain issue give said issue more validation. Its collectivist.
my guess is that the pressure for me to give my house back to the indians would be significantly greater if native americans were the overwhelming majority of the population
How does this respect the individual?
Beefy
Worst gambler ever
Brent said:This is nice. The only time I have to read Immie's statements are when you fellas quote him. Hmm. Maybe I should ignore Maineman, too?I love this feature!
Don't be getting all flippant with the ignore feature, unless you want to shield yourself from dissent and thus become irrelevant yourself. It is there for trolls, like the ones you used to use. Not for guys like maine or immie. Don't shoot yourself in the foot.
If you want to ignore everyone, go to http://www.intolerantchristians.com
Immanuel
Junior Member
Brent, is this really a man that you think so highly of? It is this kind of thing that makes me and others wonder about you and question your Christlikeness
Francisco Franco:
On October 1, 1936 he was publicly proclaimed as Generalísimo of the Fascist army and Jefe del Estado (Head of State).
Political command
He managed to fuse the ideologically incompatible national-syndicalist Falange ("phalanx", a far-right Spanish political party with ideology similar to that of Mussolini's movement) and the Carlist monarchist parties under his rule.
From early 1937 every death sentence had to be signed (or acknowledged) by Franco.
Spain under Franco
Spain was bitterly divided and economically ruined as a result of the civil war. After the war a very harsh repression began, with thousands of summary executions, an unknown number of political prisoners and tens of thousands of people in exile, largely in France and Latin America. The 1940 shooting of the president of the Catalan government, Lluís Companys, was one of the most notable cases of this early repression, while the major groups targeted were real and suspected leftists, ranging from the moderate, democratic left to Communists and Anarchists, the Spanish intelligentsia, atheists and military and government figures that had remained loyal to the Madrid government during the war. The bloodshed in Spain did not end with the cessation of hostilities, many political prisoners suffered execution by the firing squad, under the accusation of treason by martial courts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco#World_War_II
Immie
Francisco Franco:
On October 1, 1936 he was publicly proclaimed as Generalísimo of the Fascist army and Jefe del Estado (Head of State).
Political command
He managed to fuse the ideologically incompatible national-syndicalist Falange ("phalanx", a far-right Spanish political party with ideology similar to that of Mussolini's movement) and the Carlist monarchist parties under his rule.
From early 1937 every death sentence had to be signed (or acknowledged) by Franco.
Spain under Franco
Spain was bitterly divided and economically ruined as a result of the civil war. After the war a very harsh repression began, with thousands of summary executions, an unknown number of political prisoners and tens of thousands of people in exile, largely in France and Latin America. The 1940 shooting of the president of the Catalan government, Lluís Companys, was one of the most notable cases of this early repression, while the major groups targeted were real and suspected leftists, ranging from the moderate, democratic left to Communists and Anarchists, the Spanish intelligentsia, atheists and military and government figures that had remained loyal to the Madrid government during the war. The bloodshed in Spain did not end with the cessation of hostilities, many political prisoners suffered execution by the firing squad, under the accusation of treason by martial courts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco#World_War_II
Immie