October 7, - cause and effect

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QUIZ: Why did Truth Defector win the BULLSHIT award?

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QUIZ: How long before hurling the word "antisemitic" around did Truth Defector actually learn what the word means?

ANSWER: Never (trick question)

... the poster child for antisemitic garbage
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There have always been Philistines, at least for as long as there have been Israelites. Goliath was a Palestinian. You just prefer to not have a clue about what you are speaking/writing.

Show us on any map where the nation of Palestine was. You dunce. :palm:
 
There are a few nonsensical parts of your post. Blaming the Palestinians for the Jewish uprising against the Romans is weird. The Jews lost Israel over that. The Second Temple was even destroyed. The Palestinians kept Palestine from that point to the late 1940's.

The Muslims had a very successful set of wars with the Byzantines.

The Jews lost their statehood in 516 BC. and gained statehood in 1948. In 632, the Arab Caliphate arose, which supplanted the Byzantine Empire and lasted until 1252. That is, the Arabs lived in the territory of Palestine and owned it until the fall of the Arab Caliphate. After the Arab Caliphate, the entire territory of the Middle East was controlled by the Turks until the fall of the Ottoman Empire, and then Palestine was under the control of the British until 1948.
 
The Jews lost their statehood in 516 BC. and gained statehood in 1948. In 632, the Arab Caliphate arose, which supplanted the Byzantine Empire and lasted until 1252. That is, the Arabs lived in the territory of Palestine and owned it until the fall of the Arab Caliphate. After the Arab Caliphate, the entire territory of the Middle East was controlled by the Turks until the fall of the Ottoman Empire, and then Palestine was under the control of the British until 1948.
The Arabs never seemed to get a grip on modern warfare after losing WWI.
 
The Jews lost their statehood in 516 BC. and gained statehood in 1948. In 632, the Arab Caliphate arose, which supplanted the Byzantine Empire and lasted until 1252. That is, the Arabs lived in the territory of Palestine and owned it until the fall of the Arab Caliphate. After the Arab Caliphate, the entire territory of the Middle East was controlled by the Turks until the fall of the Ottoman Empire, and then Palestine was under the control of the British until 1948.

11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.

12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.

13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.

14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.

15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.

16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.

17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.

20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.
 
Guno צְבִי;5916749 said:
11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.

12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.

13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.

14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.

15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.

16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.

17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.

19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.

20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.

Palestine as an Arab state never existed. This territory was part of the Arab Caliphate, which was destroyed by the Turks, and after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, England and France divided all the Arab lands among themselves, splitting them into separate Arab states. In 1948, the territory of Palestine, where the Arabs lived, was divided into two more states: Palestinian and Jewish. However, the Jews, having weapons, did not allow the Arabs to create a state by occupying all of Palestine. Due to the fact that there were much more Arab residents of Palestine than Jews, most of the Arabs were driven into autonomy, while the other part of the Arabs fled to neighboring Arab countries to save themselves. This is how there were more Jews than Arabs in the newly created Jewish state of Israel. Since 1948, the Palestinian Arabs have been trying to achieve their own state as decided by the UN, but Israel has been preventing the implementation of this decision and has been at war with the Palestinian Arabs all this time. To end the war, the Jews have two options, either to give the Palestinians the opportunity to create a state within the limits in accordance with the UN decision, or to kill all the Arabs in the autonomous territory.
 
…. To end the war, the Jews have two options, either to give the Palestinians the opportunity to create a state within the limits in accordance with the UN decision, or to kill all the Arabs in the autonomous territory.

They have and every time the Palestinians used it as a place to launch rockets and make suicide bombs. Sad

There’s a reason why the other Arab states don’t want these nutjobs in their own countries unlike the Syrian refugees.
 
At this point, we should regard a Jewish state in the Levant
as just about as legitimate as a non-native American controlled state in North America.

If we're legit, Israel is legit.
If Israel isn't legit, than neither are we.

Looking at it any other way is completely illogical.
Completely illogical, unfortunately, is the apt description for tens of millions of Americans.
 
The Arabs never seemed to get a grip on modern warfare after losing WWI.

It seems that you are far from the real story. The Arabs could not be defeated because they supported the British and French in the war against the Ottoman Empire, which was an ally of Germany. Study history and don't embarrass yourself.
 
There never has been a Palestinian State. Most likely, thanks to Arab terrorists, there never will be. I wish morons would stop perpetuating this lie in the media, our government institutions and educational establishment.

It’s absolutely true that there was no Palestinian state. This historical territory called Palestine was part of the Arab Caliphate and the main population of Palestine was Arab. The Arab population of Palestine remained the same under the Ottoman Empire and did not change until 1948. But after the UN decision to create two states in Palestine, Arab and Jewish, the Jews began to expel the Arabs, and since then the conflict began, which continues to this day.
 
It seems that you are far from the real story. The Arabs could not be defeated because they supported the British and French in the war against the Ottoman Empire, which was an ally of Germany. Study history and don't embarrass yourself.
They were under the Ottoman Empire for centuries. What history do you claim I’m missing?

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They have and every time the Palestinians used it as a place to launch rockets and make suicide bombs. Sad

There’s a reason why the other Arab states don’t want these nutjobs in their own countries unlike the Syrian refugees.

Nutjobs? They are just people like you wanting to live in peace and have self-governance. Living for generations under Israel's iron thumb has been terrible. Daily abuse, being created as second-class citizens and watching Israel take more and more of their land every year is horrifying. Going through checkpoints and having Palestinian children being used for target practice, makes someone simmer.
 
Nutjobs? They are just people like you wanting to live in peace and have self-governance. Living for generations under Israel's iron thumb has been terrible. Daily abuse, being created as second-class citizens and watching Israel take more and more of their land every year is horrifying. Going through checkpoints and having Palestinian children being used for target practice, makes someone simmer.
If that were true, they’d have 25 miles of resort beach hotels and condos instead of 300miles of tunnels.
 
It’s absolutely true that there was no Palestinian state.
It's absolutely true that there has been a Philistine nation for as long, or longer, than there were Israelites. Wherever they lived, wherever they called "home", was Palestine.

This historical territory called Palestine was part of the Arab Caliphate and the main population of Palestine was Arab.
Palestine was wherever the Philistines lived, and yes, the main population was Philistine.

The Arab population of Palestine remained the same under the Ottoman Empire and did not change until 1948.
Of course. Philistines are Arabs. This is why Israelites HATED the Philishtina and why Israelis HATE the Philishtina today.
 
Nutjobs? They are just people like you wanting to live in peace and have self-governance. Living for generations under Israel's iron thumb has been terrible. Daily abuse, being created as second-class citizens and watching Israel take more and more of their land every year is horrifying. Going through checkpoints and having Palestinian children being used for target practice, makes someone simmer.
You should notice how Team Israel speaks, e.g. "every time the Palestinians used it as a place to launch rockets." Team Israel will not be honest and refer to those who actually perpetrate attacks, i.e. the Al Qassam Brigades, but instead impute the guilt and demonization to the Arab Semites that they HATE, i.e. Palestinians, all the people who never attacked Israel. They do this intentionally to legitimize in their own minds the slaughter of tens of thousands of men, women and children whose only crime is that they are Arab.

Team Israel knows that they would be immediately exposed for the horribly immoral and racist shits that they are if they were to come right out and admit to it, so they try to conceal their malfeasance by demonizing all of the Arabs that they HATE as active, violent terrorists. Every single member of Team Israel has absolutely no problem saying that every single dead child "deserved" what he got. Some will take their malfeasance on level deeper and say that Arabs totally deserve what they get because they "voted for" other innocent Arabs to whom demonization was imputed.
 
What history do you claim I’m missing?

Here are your words #27: The Arabs never seemed to get a grip on modern warfare after losing WWI.

Here's my remark: It seems that you are far from the real story. The Arabs could not be defeated because they supported the British and French in the war against the Ottoman Empire, which was an ally of Germany. Study history and don't embarrass yourself.
 
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