Rapture Doctrine invented by John Darby in 1830 AD

kudzu said:
The Olivet Discourse is not the end times, but rather about Messiah’s proclamation that the temple in Jerusalem would be destroyed... Its the end of an age, NOT the end of the world.

in Matthew 24:34 Messiah told us that all of the things that he said would be fulfilled in that generation:

“Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”

You couldn't avoid a world wide tribulation by escaping to the hills.

Remember what the Jewish leaders said when they handed Messiah over to be crucified:

“And all the people answered and said, “His blood be on us and on our children.” Matthew 27:25
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Acts 1:11 “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”
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did you see him?.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
did you see him?.....
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Try this.

"Look! The Lord is coming from his dwelling place; he comes down and treads the high places of the earth. The mountains melt beneath him and the valleys split apart, like wax before the fire, like water rushing down a slope." (Micah 1:3-4)

Micah's prophecy was fulfilled when the Assyrians destroyed Samaria and took Israel captive in 722-721 B.C., as the evangelical NIV Study Bible notes.

No actual divine descent to earth was required, despite the vivid imagery of God coming down bodily to carry out his purpose. So by comparing Scripture with like Scripture, one sees that the physical descent of the Lord -- that is, Jesus -- to the Mount of Olives is not required to fulfill Zechariah 14.

Moreover, given the fact that Jesus had prophesied that the Son of Man would come before his disciples had finished evangelizing the cities of Israel (Matthew 10:23) and before some of his disciples had tasted death (Matthew 16:28), one should look for an event that fulfills the Messianic prophecy of Zechariah 14 within the timeframe of Jesus' own generation -- the one that would "certainly not pass away until all these things have happened" (Matthew 24:34).

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http://planetpreterist.com/content/does-acts-111-prove-visible-return-christ
 
since you didn't see him, it hasn't happened yet.....
Revelation 1
and every eye will see him
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Matthew 24
And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
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For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man
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Luke
"It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all. "It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed.
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Mark
when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels.
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so you see, there is still time for you to correct your errors......
 
Grugore said:
Why should I quote something that should be common knowledge to anyone who has studied the topic? If you do not know this, it is painfully obvious that you are to ignorant to participate in this discussion.
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you mean believe not knowing, and "leaning" from semi literate preacher$ is not knowledge

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2 Corinthians 5


For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.

4 For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.

5 Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.

6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
 
Grugore said:
Sinners will be thrown whole into the lake of fire. That means that their physical bodies will reside in hell. So why wouldn't Christians also have physical bodies?
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lake of fire? LOL

The invention of the christian hell is the perfect way to keep the ignorant and fearful in line, it is nowhere found in what the christers call the old testament
 
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