Religious Racism: Texas Church Argues There's a Biblical Precedent for Strict Racial

kudzu said:
You don't have to "interpret" it at all.. Just read what it says.

Genesis 9:20-27 King James Version (KJV)

20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:

21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
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obviously some rigorous interpretation has been applied.......neither slavery or race is mentioned.......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
obviously some rigorous interpretation has been applied.......neither slavery or race is mentioned.......
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You have really poor reading skills.

25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.


The so-called curse of Ham was actually on Ham's son Canaan and not on Ham himself.
 
kudzu said:
Really?

Biblical Reasons
• Abraham, the “father of faith,” and all the patriarchs held slaves without God’s disapproval (Gen. 21:9–10).

• Canaan, Ham’s son, was made a slave to his brothers (Gen. 9:24–27).

• The Ten Commandments mention slavery twice, showing God’s implicit acceptance of it (Ex. 20:10, 17).

• Slavery was widespread throughout the Roman world, and yet Jesus never spoke against it.

• The apostle Paul specifically commanded slaves to obey their masters (Eph. 6:5–8).

• Paul returned a runaway slave, Philemon, to his master (Philem. 12).
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yes, really.....only an atheist would twist scripture so violently to pretend it says the exact opposite of what Christianity teaches......have you ever read Phileman?......

15 Perhaps the reason he was separated from you for a little while was that you might have him back forever— 16 no longer as a slave, but better than a slave, as a dear brother. He is very dear to me but even dearer to you, both as a fellow man and as a brother in the Lord.
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your anti-Christian bigotry is terribly sad.....
 
kudzu said:
Lots of justifications for heinous acts among Christians.. Like the thousands of witch burnings or even Gott Mit Un in Nazi Germany.
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you are such a hateful little cunt....did a Christian girl break your heart in high school?......is this all for revenge because your parents made you go to Sunday School.....
 
kudzu said:
You have really poor reading skills.

25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.


The so-called curse of Ham was actually on Ham's son Canaan and not on Ham himself.
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and he was racially prejudiced against his brother?........by the way a servant isn't actually a slave......

https://www.biblestudytools.com/interlinear-bible/passage/?q=genesis+9&t=kjv
 
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PostmodernProphet said:
and he was racially prejudiced against his brother?........by the way a servant isn't actually a slave......
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Really? The Christians in America got it wrong for nearly 400 years. Did you go to school at all? According to Genesis the four sons of Noah represent different people and Ham or Cham was black.

Muslims and Jews also believed that Ham was the father of the black race and that justified slavery.

Japheth is usually thought of as the “Father of the Europeans” and the “Father of the Japhetic Race” equating the Japhetic nations to Europeans. He is known to be the ancestor of all Indo-European nations. The majority of his descendants are situated in north western regions like Anatolia and Aegean. However, there are also assumptions that Japheth is the “Father of the Asian or Mongoloid People.
 
kudzu said:
Really? The Christians in America got it wrong for nearly 400 years.
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no......it was the anti-god slave owners that had it wrong.......

According to Genesis the four sons of Noah represent different people and Ham or Cham was black.
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can you cite the verse that says that.....or did some anti-god theologian just make it up?.....
there are also assumptions
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sort of summarizes all you posts...
 
Roman slavery was - like that in many places - a mix of human and inhuman, like feudalism, capitalism and other sick systems. Racist slavery, however, was quite another thing - the direct denial of Christianity, as we can tell from all this Old Testament crap.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
no......it was the anti-god slave owners that had it wrong.......


can you cite the verse that says that.....or did some anti-god theologian just make it up?.....


sort of summarizes all you posts...
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Japath was supposed to be the father of Europeans and Shem was the father of the Hebrews and Arabs. What church were you raised in that you don't know your Bible?
 
kudzu said:
Japath was supposed to be the father of Europeans and Shem was the father of the Hebrews and Arabs. What church were you raised in that you don't know your Bible?
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I will repeat the question, not because I think you will actually answer it, but because I want everyone to notice the way you mind-fucked atheists dance away from the argument......

can you cite the verse that says that..
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you see, the problem isn't that I don't know the Bible.......its that idiots like you lie about what is in it.......
 
I don't buy into the argument that Ham was an African American, and that his whole race is cursed. But, this IFC church is no more guilty of nonsense than libs who insist blacks are oppressed. An African American can walk into almost any university or job that whites with the same qualifications would be barred from. Blacks receive several times as much welfare, per capita, as whites. Black contributions to society include crimes on the street and crimes at the ballot box. Blacks are the oppressors.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
slavery was the birthchild of god-deniers.....
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Sez the follower of that subhuman mutant luther the anti semite


How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery


As shown by the following passages — adapted from Noel Rae’s new book The Great Stain, which uses firsthand accounts to tell the story of slavery in America — for some of them that rationalization was right there in the Bible.


http://time.com/5171819/christianity-slavery-book-excerpt/
 
The libs accuse Christianity of being pro-slavery. That's an ironic charge from people, libs, who want to enslave the whole population to the government.

Libs love to lie about slavery in the Bible. Libs love to point to the verse about selling your daughter into slavery, but that's nothing but a 7-year (max) job contract. Another irony, libs objecting to women getting jobs in the Bible.

That ignorant Texas church is less racist than any lib.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
does slavery predate Christianity?......
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Yep. First recorded instances of slavery were by religious people in Egypt and Mesopotamia. They were not god-deniers, as you claim. It just wasn't your god. I imagine there was slavery even before recorded history...since the dawn of man, and those numbskulls were probably religious too.

You'd do well to realize your religion wasn't the first or most important, but just another in a long line of bullshit throughout the history of man.
 
Anarchon said:
Yep. First recorded instances of slavery were by religious people in Egypt and Mesopotamia. They were not god-deniers, as you claim. It just wasn't your god. I imagine there was slavery even before recorded history...since the dawn of man, and those numbskulls were probably religious too.

You'd do well to realize your religion wasn't the first or most important, but just another in a long line of bullshit throughout the history of man.
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There's one God. Denying him is denying God. Polythism of the ancient Egyptians is the equivalent of modern atheism. You worship created things, including yourself.
 
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