Should America tell China they can have Taiwan?

Dutch Uncle said:
Spaz, those were Soviet nukes in Ukraine. You just made an argument on why the US should put nukes in other countries.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, there was a major concern of "loose nukes" being sold by former Soviet oppressed states to support their economies. The US was more than willing to buy them first before the Jihadists and the Cartels.
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If Ukraine had Nukes there wouldn't have been a Russian invasion in Crimea or Donbass.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Half of Pakistan is friendly to the West...the half with the nukes. If the angry Jihadist half gets nukes, they'll use them...but probably against India unless they can row it to NY or LA.
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Not just Pakistan.

One day Jihadists could rule & use nukes out of France & the UK.

Just shows how careless & stupid you West Euro trash are.

You people are even worse than Muslims historically.

Now did a 180 & commit cultural suicide.

You're a real deranged &dysfunctional people.
 
NikodemPoplawski said:
Not just Pakistan.

One day Jihadists could rule & use nukes out of France & the UK.

Just shows how careless & stupid you West Euro trash are.

You people are even worse than Muslims historically.

Now did a 180 & commit cultural suicide.

You're a real deranged &dysfunctional people.
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What do you think the result would be if Jihadists destroyed Paris and London?

What was the result then terrorists took out a building in NYC? Do you really think a response to a city being nuked would be less than the US response to 9/11?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Half of Pakistan is friendly to the West...the half with the nukes. If the angry Jihadist half gets nukes, they'll use them...but probably against India unless they can row it to NY or LA.
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"The Pakistan government has repeatedly denied that it provides any military support to the Taliban in its diplomacy regarding its extensive operations in Afghanistan.82 Of all the foreign powers involved in efforts to sustain and manipulate the ongoing fighting, Pakistan is distinguished both by the sweep of its objectives and the scale of its efforts, which include soliciting funding for the Taliban, bankrolling Taliban operations, providing diplomatic support as the Taliban's virtual emissaries abroad, arranging training for Taliban fighters, recruiting skilled and unskilled manpower to serve in Taliban armies, planning and directing offensives, providing and facilitating shipments of ammunition and fuel, and on several occasions apparently directly providing combat support."
https://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/afghan2/Afghan0701-02.htm

"PAKISTAN'S SUPPORT OF THE TALIBAN"
 
Jack said:
"The Pakistan government has repeatedly denied that it provides any military support to the Taliban in its diplomacy regarding its extensive operations in Afghanistan.82 Of all the foreign powers involved in efforts to sustain and manipulate the ongoing fighting, Pakistan is distinguished both by the sweep of its objectives and the scale of its efforts, which include soliciting funding for the Taliban, bankrolling Taliban operations, providing diplomatic support as the Taliban's virtual emissaries abroad, arranging training for Taliban fighters, recruiting skilled and unskilled manpower to serve in Taliban armies, planning and directing offensives, providing and facilitating shipments of ammunition and fuel, and on several occasions apparently directly providing combat support."
https://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/afghan2/Afghan0701-02.htm

"PAKISTAN'S SUPPORT OF THE TALIBAN"
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NW Pakistan isn't exactly under control of Pakistani government.

Do you ever think it odd that the Pakistani Air Defense radar net went down the same night as Osama bin Laden? Coincidence? Super Secret Squirrel Shit with high tech magic? Some help form the Pakistanis Air Force?

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/pakistan/

Economic Overview
decades of internal political disputes and low levels of foreign investment have led to underdevelopment in Pakistan
 
Dutch Uncle said:
What do you think the result would be if Jihadists destroyed Paris and London?

What was the result then terrorists took out a building in NYC? Do you really think a response to a city being nuked would be less than the US response to 9/11?
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I said out of France & UK.

As in if there Muslim population skyrockets they could start controlling those nations.
 
Jack said:
Tough to carry on a War when it's on the other side of the Planet.
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Tougher for the fucking Brits. LOL

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Tibet was a strategic point for China. So what does China need Taiwan for? And what about Afghanistan for anyone?

Clearly the withdrawal exposed the naked secrets why it is needed.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Who was the outside aggressor in Afghanistan? Why didn't Trump nuke them?

Dude, we got that rep in Vietnam. The Gulf War salvaged it a bit but then Clinton earned it again in Somalia and Afghanistan. Bush regained out rep substantially attacking Afghanistan for 9/11 but instead of riding that wave of US leadership he threw it down the hole that became Iraq. Trump hates the military because it's everything he'll never be. Biden had the right idea to leave Afghanistan. A for effort, F for execution.
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English people are unreliable allies whether in the USA or the UK.

English people back stabbed Eastern Europe a bunch of times.

In Munich Agreement helping Hitler take over portions of resource rich & vehicle rich portions of Czechoslovakia.

In the pact with Poland that if Hitler attacked Poland the English would aid Poland, but that never did.

in Lend lease aid to Stalin.

At Potsdam, Yalta, and Tehran Conferences.
The Soviet takeover of Eastern Europe.

In the Budapest Memoradum giving up Ukraine's nukes, with English & USA supposed to support Ukraine's borders.
That never happened.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
NW Pakistan isn't exactly under control of Pakistani government.

Do you ever think it odd that the Pakistani Air Defense radar net went down the same night as Osama bin Laden? Coincidence? Super Secret Squirrel Shit with high tech magic? Some help form the Pakistanis Air Force?
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Taliban are Pakistani surrogates. Afghan Forces are US surrogates.

Islamists versus Western Democracy.
 
NikodemPoplawski said:
Certainly possible considering Ukraine was an integral portion of the USSR.
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The bombs were useless without the codes....except for the fissionable material inside. That could be remade into a Paki or North Korean bomb-frame or simply turned into a dirty bomb.

Regardless, the US didn't want them on the street and the Ukraine wanted to be a friend of the US....because the fucking Russians are assholes who already murdered people in Georgia and Chechnya.

The good news is that Global Warming is making Ukraine and the Black Sea less important. LOL
 
Jack said:
Taliban are Pakistani surrogates. Afghan Forces are US surrogates.

Islamists versus Western Democracy.
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Disagreed.

Take them at face value unless you have evidence to the contrary. The fact remains the Pakis have problems of their own including radical Jihadists.
 
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