Stoicism vs. Materialism

[Obtenebrator]

Clearly this person logs in just to troll you.

Nope. I challenge the claim that an unknown mind of a fellow primate is "incapable" of integral calculus. I honestly don't know how Cypress thinks he knows this 'fact'.

This is common in real philosophy classes: to challenge someone's claims especially if they are tossed out without evidence. I am not saying orangs are out there doing calculus, but I think it absurd in the extreme to assume that their brains are somehow INCAPABLE of it without any evidence like being able to know what a brain is capable of.


Just a few decades ago no one would probably think about octopi as being particularly brilliant creatures. But they are FAR smarter than we imagined and they don't even have a centralized brain per se!

Crows, the same thing. They seem to be far smarter than their small "bird brain" would imagine.

Orangutans are apes. So they have a pretty good sized brain. I'm curious how someone could claim they know the CAPABILITIES of that brain without being able to communicate with it.

 

[BidenPresident]

Nope. I challenge the claim that an unknown mind of a fellow primate is "incapable" of integral calculus. I honestly don't know how Cypress thinks he knows this 'fact'.

This is common in real philosophy classes: to challenge someone's claims especially if they are tossed out without evidence. I am not saying orangs are out there doing calculus, but I think it absurd in the extreme to assume that their brains are somehow INCAPABLE of it without any evidence like being able to know what a brain is capable of.


Just a few decades ago no one would probably think about octopi as being particularly brilliant creatures. But they are FAR smarter than we imagined and they don't even have a centralized brain per se!

Crows, the same thing. They seem to be far smarter than their small "bird brain" would imagine.

Orangutans are apes. So they have a pretty good sized brain. I'm curious how someone could claim they know the CAPABILITIES of that brain without being able to communicate with it.

you're a fucking jerkoff troll

 

[Commander Dutch]

It's an honest question. You don't know what is going on in an orangutan's brain, nor do you know the capabilities of it. So why do you accept Cypress's CLAIM (without evidence)?

Nice try, Perry.

 

[Commander Dutch]

Well, then you didn't understand what I said. You said they were INCAPABLE of it. I am curious how you know this. Unless you think you are PSYCHIC and can read orangutan minds. Is that literally what you think you are capable of? Wow. And you think i'm being weird.

I am fascinated how no one has ever challenged your claims. Funny but you are incapable of defending them.

Now you think you know what is the capabilities of minds you've never communicated with.

Funny.

QED on Perry being Perry. LOL

 

[Obtenebrator]

you're a fucking jerkoff troll

As are you. But that's beside the point. I wrote a detailed explanation. You are the troll who can't read.

 

[Obtenebrator]

QED on Perry being Perry. LOL

So you can read orangutan minds? That's your claim now? Flying helicopters, making bets and reading orangutan minds. Wow. You're amazing.

 

[Obtenebrator]

Nice try, Perry.

No, it's an honest question. How does Cypress know that orangutans are INCAPABLE of integral calculus?

HOW does he know this? Is he an orangutan or can he read orangutan minds? Those are literally the ONLY TWO OPTIONS.

 

[Obtenebrator]

It's so funny that Cypress, BidenPresident and Doc have never had a real philosophy class where a university prof challenged their claims. It's hilarious to see an autodidact try to exist in a socratic type setting. LOL.

 

[Commander Dutch]

So you can read orangutan minds? That's your claim now? Flying helicopters, making bets and reading orangutan minds. Wow. You're amazing.

No, Perry. OTOH, you're free to believe orangutans can do calculus.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

QED on Perry being Perry. LOL

You're going to spark the creation of yet another "tribute thread," wait for it.

 

[Cypress]

It's so funny that Cypress, BidenPresident and Doc have never had a real philosophy class where a university prof challenged their claims. It's hilarious to see an autodidact try to exist in a socratic type setting. LOL.

You're free to believe orangutans know integral calculus.

I'm trying to discuss ideas here with posters who aren't mentally ill.

 

[Obtenebrator]

No, Perry. OTOH, you're free to believe orangutans can do calculus.

So you often believe things without any evidence of it?

 

[Obtenebrator]

You're free to believe orangutans know how to do integral calculus.

I'm trying to discuss ideas here with posters who aren't mentally ill.

No, you have never had anyone challenge your thoughts. Just answer the question: how do you know this about orangutans? (I know you WON'T because you CAN'T but you seem to think you are able to, so have at it)

 

[Obtenebrator]

You're going to spark the creation of yet another "tribute thread," wait for it.

Try following the conversation, troll. Or better yet, fuck off.

 

[Commander Dutch]

You're going to spark the creation of yet another "tribute thread," wait for it.

Some people collect spoons, some vodka bottles and some, like me, collect tribute threads.

 

[Commander Dutch]

So you often believe things without any evidence of it?

No, Perry. Why are you leaping to that conclusion?

 

[Obtenebrator]

Some people collect spoons, some vodka bottles and some, like me, collect tribute threads.

I think it's hilarious that you think Cypress can read an orangutan's mind.

you guys wouldn't last 2 minutes in a real philosophy class or any sort of socratic method discussion. LOL.

 

[Obtenebrator]

No, Perry. Why are you leaping to that conclusion?

You believe Cypress knows the thoughts of orangutans without evidence. What more do I need?

 

[Obtenebrator]

I'm trying to discuss ideas here with posters who aren't mentally ill.

Oh, you mean your friend who constantly makes 12b bets? That's what you call mentally healthy? Got it.

 

[Commander Dutch]

No, you have never had anyone challenge your thoughts. Just answer the question: how do you know this about orangutans? (I know you WON'T because you CAN'T but you seem to think you are able to, so have at it)