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ThatOwlWoman
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Interesting. The (R)s are going to have to put the Evangelicals back in their closet and find a new group to schmooze if they want to remain viable.
From the article:
"Belief in the God of the Bible declines with age.
Those under age 50 viewed God as less powerful and less involved in earthly affairs than do older Americans.
Among college graduates, only 45 percent believe in the God of the Bible."
This was surprising.
"Then there are the hardcore disbelievers: about 10 percent who say they don’t believe in the God of the Bible or a higher power."
I thought that percentage would be higher.
From the article:
"Belief in the God of the Bible declines with age.
Those under age 50 viewed God as less powerful and less involved in earthly affairs than do older Americans.
Among college graduates, only 45 percent believe in the God of the Bible."
This was surprising.
"Then there are the hardcore disbelievers: about 10 percent who say they don’t believe in the God of the Bible or a higher power."
I thought that percentage would be higher.
Nothing surprising. What's surprising is seeing so many religious threads showing up in the Political Forum.
God said it would be this way. People have fallen in love with self and the world more and more with each passing generation.
Many prefer the wide gate.
Many, more people will come to the Lord during the Tribulation.
Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
Mat. 7:13-14
ThatOwlWoman
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Nothing surprising. What's surprising is seeing so many religious threads showing up in the Political Forum.
God said it would be this way. People have fallen in love with self and the world more and more with each passing generation.
Many prefer the wide gate.
Many, more people will come to the Lord during the Tribulation.
Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
Mat. 7:13-14
If there is "another place" besides this one, I have a feeling we'll be meeting again there. ;~)
evince
Truthmatters
Stretch
others are allowed to believe in other things
when you start claiming your ready for the world to END to keep people from discussing what they believe you sound cray cray
people being encouraged to believe what is in their heart doesn't bring on the end of the world
MMMkay
others are allowed to believe in other things
when you start claiming your ready for the world to END to keep people from discussing what they believe you sound cray cray
people being encouraged to believe what is in their heart doesn't bring on the end of the world
MMMkay
Have I ever ordered people to stop talking?
Other people believe all kinds of things...go for it.
I mentioned that it is surprising to see threads started in this Political Forum as opposed to the Religion Forum all of a sudden...That was IT.
Keep talking. The more the merrier.
evince
Truthmatters
Views of God also tend to differ by political party and race. Seventy percent of Republicans believe in the God of the Bible, while only 45 percent of Democrats do. But among Democrats, there are big differences in views of God when it comes to race; 70 percent of non-white Democrats believe in the God of the Bible — comparable to the rate among Republicans.
Belief in a higher power was found in every segment of the religiously unaffiliated population. Overall, 70 percent of the nones said they believe in a spiritual force. Among agnostics, it was 62 percent. Even among atheists, nearly 1 in 5 (or 18 percent) said they believe in a higher power.
cawacko
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An interesting article on religion and race.
The Ugly Coded Critique of Chick-Fil-A's Christianity
The fast-food chain's "infiltration" of New York City ignores the truth about religion in America. It also reveals an ugly narrow-mindedness.
The New Yorker has been taking it on the chin lately for its essay about Chick-fil-A’s “infiltration” of New York City. Although most of the piece is about the evils of fast food and the chain’s ubiquitous "Eat Mor Chikin" advertising campaign, the essay has been excoriated for its anti-Christian tone. “The brand’s arrival here feels like an infiltration, in no small part because of its pervasive Christian traditionalism,” we’re told. Not just that: “Its headquarters, in Atlanta, are adorned with Bible verses and a statue of Jesus washing a disciple’s feet. Its stores close on Sundays.”
1 And lest we forget: “The restaurant’s corporate purpose still begins with the words ‘to glorify God.’”
What the author really seems angry about is that the company’s CEO opposes same-sex marriage. But the framing of the piece made Christianity the villain, and the headline -- “Chick-fil-A’s Creepy Infiltration of New York City” -- was sufficiently troubling that Nate Silver quickly tweeted “This is why Trump won.” Fair point. Religious bigotry is always dangerous. But there’s a deeper problem here, a difficulty endemic to today’s secular left: an all-too-frequent weird refusal to acknowledge the demographics of Christianity. When you mock Christians, you’re not mocking who you think you are.
A 2015 Pew Research Center study of race and ethnicity among U.S. religions provides some basic facts. In the first place, if you’re mocking Christians, you’re mostly mocking women, because women are more likely than men to be Christians. The greatest disproportion is found among black Christians, of whom only 41 percent are male. So you’re mocking black women in particular.
Overall, people of color are more likely than whites to be Christians -- and pretty devout Christians at that. Some 83 percent of all black Americans are absolutely certain that God exists. No other group comes close to this figure. Black Christians are far more likely than white Christians (84 percent to 64 percent) to describe religion as very important in their lives. Of all ethnic groups, black Christians are the most likely to attend services, pray frequently and read the Bible regularly. They are also -- here’s the kicker -- most likely to believe that their faith is the place to look for answers to questions about right and wrong. And they are, by large margins, the most likely to believe that the Bible is the literally inerrant word of God. In short, if you find Christian traditionalism creepy, it’s black people you’re talking about.
It’s true that, politically, black Americans are overwhelmingly Democrats, and that’s true of black Christians as well. On the other hand, black Christians tend to be socially conservative: the least tolerant of homosexuality, the most likely to oppose same-sex marriage and the least likely to believe in evolution.
2 If you’re maligning traditional Christianity, the people you’re maligning are disproportionately black.
And then there’s this fascinating table:
Here we see something about the future. Look at the figures for the young, on the left-hand side. Only 9 percent of white Christians are young millennials, compared with 21 percent of Asian Christians and 16 percent of Latino Christians. Some 17 percent of white Christians are from the so-called silent generation. No other group comes close. In other words, white Christians are aging. Christians of color are youthening.
As I’ve noted before in this space, the figures are equally striking worldwide. Even as the U.S. and Europe see the growth of atheism and agnosticism, religious faith in general and Christianity in particular continue to explode in parts of the world that aren’t as white. That’s why the Vatican, for example, sees developing nations as the future of the church. And around the globe, the people most likely to be Christians are women of color.
Which brings us to one last point from the Pew study. Among Latinos and Asians, Christians are overwhelmingly first-generation immigrants.
Although the differences are obvious from a glance, the actual numbers are staggering. Only 3 percent of white Christians are first-generation immigrants. That compares with 10 percent of black Christians, 58 percent of Latino Christians, and 66 percent of Asian Christians. In other words, American Christianity is growing heavily through immigrants who are people of color. If Christians are really so scary, maybe it’s time to build that wall.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying the article shouldn’t have been published. I don’t think the New Yorker owes anybody an apology. I’m a free-speech guy, and I don’t believe any group should be placed beyond criticism or mockery. But if you plan to mock, it’s useful to know whom you’re actually mocking.
Narrow-mindedness of this sort is alarmingly common on the left. A few years ago, a well-known progressive commentator mused to his large Twitter following that sometimes he wishes all the Christians would just disappear. I would like to believe he was simply too uninformed to realize that he was wishing for a whiter world.
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/view/...has-troubling-roots?__twitter_impression=true
The Ugly Coded Critique of Chick-Fil-A's Christianity
The fast-food chain's "infiltration" of New York City ignores the truth about religion in America. It also reveals an ugly narrow-mindedness.
The New Yorker has been taking it on the chin lately for its essay about Chick-fil-A’s “infiltration” of New York City. Although most of the piece is about the evils of fast food and the chain’s ubiquitous "Eat Mor Chikin" advertising campaign, the essay has been excoriated for its anti-Christian tone. “The brand’s arrival here feels like an infiltration, in no small part because of its pervasive Christian traditionalism,” we’re told. Not just that: “Its headquarters, in Atlanta, are adorned with Bible verses and a statue of Jesus washing a disciple’s feet. Its stores close on Sundays.”
1 And lest we forget: “The restaurant’s corporate purpose still begins with the words ‘to glorify God.’”
What the author really seems angry about is that the company’s CEO opposes same-sex marriage. But the framing of the piece made Christianity the villain, and the headline -- “Chick-fil-A’s Creepy Infiltration of New York City” -- was sufficiently troubling that Nate Silver quickly tweeted “This is why Trump won.” Fair point. Religious bigotry is always dangerous. But there’s a deeper problem here, a difficulty endemic to today’s secular left: an all-too-frequent weird refusal to acknowledge the demographics of Christianity. When you mock Christians, you’re not mocking who you think you are.
A 2015 Pew Research Center study of race and ethnicity among U.S. religions provides some basic facts. In the first place, if you’re mocking Christians, you’re mostly mocking women, because women are more likely than men to be Christians. The greatest disproportion is found among black Christians, of whom only 41 percent are male. So you’re mocking black women in particular.
Overall, people of color are more likely than whites to be Christians -- and pretty devout Christians at that. Some 83 percent of all black Americans are absolutely certain that God exists. No other group comes close to this figure. Black Christians are far more likely than white Christians (84 percent to 64 percent) to describe religion as very important in their lives. Of all ethnic groups, black Christians are the most likely to attend services, pray frequently and read the Bible regularly. They are also -- here’s the kicker -- most likely to believe that their faith is the place to look for answers to questions about right and wrong. And they are, by large margins, the most likely to believe that the Bible is the literally inerrant word of God. In short, if you find Christian traditionalism creepy, it’s black people you’re talking about.
It’s true that, politically, black Americans are overwhelmingly Democrats, and that’s true of black Christians as well. On the other hand, black Christians tend to be socially conservative: the least tolerant of homosexuality, the most likely to oppose same-sex marriage and the least likely to believe in evolution.
2 If you’re maligning traditional Christianity, the people you’re maligning are disproportionately black.
And then there’s this fascinating table:
Here we see something about the future. Look at the figures for the young, on the left-hand side. Only 9 percent of white Christians are young millennials, compared with 21 percent of Asian Christians and 16 percent of Latino Christians. Some 17 percent of white Christians are from the so-called silent generation. No other group comes close. In other words, white Christians are aging. Christians of color are youthening.
As I’ve noted before in this space, the figures are equally striking worldwide. Even as the U.S. and Europe see the growth of atheism and agnosticism, religious faith in general and Christianity in particular continue to explode in parts of the world that aren’t as white. That’s why the Vatican, for example, sees developing nations as the future of the church. And around the globe, the people most likely to be Christians are women of color.
Which brings us to one last point from the Pew study. Among Latinos and Asians, Christians are overwhelmingly first-generation immigrants.
Although the differences are obvious from a glance, the actual numbers are staggering. Only 3 percent of white Christians are first-generation immigrants. That compares with 10 percent of black Christians, 58 percent of Latino Christians, and 66 percent of Asian Christians. In other words, American Christianity is growing heavily through immigrants who are people of color. If Christians are really so scary, maybe it’s time to build that wall.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying the article shouldn’t have been published. I don’t think the New Yorker owes anybody an apology. I’m a free-speech guy, and I don’t believe any group should be placed beyond criticism or mockery. But if you plan to mock, it’s useful to know whom you’re actually mocking.
Narrow-mindedness of this sort is alarmingly common on the left. A few years ago, a well-known progressive commentator mused to his large Twitter following that sometimes he wishes all the Christians would just disappear. I would like to believe he was simply too uninformed to realize that he was wishing for a whiter world.
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/view/...has-troubling-roots?__twitter_impression=true
Hardcore, I imagine there are varying degrees of disbelief, like myself, I think the god of the Bible is manmade, I don’t believe in a god that interacts with humans, I think there are more intelligent life forms than humans. I am nuetral on a high power, I am just unsure, I have a lot of doubts. I am in awe of the universe and life.
Not necessarily. Some are so carnal and selfish, that the anguish of hell will fit like a tight glove. Others are so selfless and pure, that endless joy and happiness will be a welcome relief.
It'll come down to where you are most comfortable.
evince
Truthmatters
Not necessarily. Some are so carnal and selfish, that the anguish of hell will fit like a tight glove. Others are so selfless and pure, that endless joy and happiness will be a welcome relief.
It'll come down to where you are most comfortable.
if there is a heaven you wont be there
God is not unaware of this. You are as most people are. In awe of creation, not the creator.
The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness. For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but they became futile in their thinking and darkened in their foolish hearts. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images of mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
Therefore God gave them up in the desires of their hearts to impurity for the dishonoring of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator, who is forever worthy of praise! Amen.
Romans 1: 18-25
Quoting scripture to prove a point to me is hilarious.
Good post, Phantasmal.
Ummm...one thing though:
Take a look at what you said...particularly where you used the word "belief" (or variations of it)...and see if it would be more real if you had used "guess" instead.
Nobody can FORCE into anything. LOL
Yes, probably more appropriate, thanks
evince
Truthmatters
the stop pretending you christians can FORCE this nation to be a christian nation
I don't quote Scripture to prove a point. I do it because it is worth far more than human opinion. You're debate is with God, not me. It's better for you to hear what HE says.