You haven't done shit. Glad you admitted that.
I didn't admit anything. I told you what I HAVEN'T done.
I opposed Iraq because inspections were working, Bush was lying and it was an unnecessary war. Being an American does not mean blindly following everything your leaders tell you; in fact, being an American is antithesis to that. I wonder how the 4 million refugees & hundreds of thousands of innocent dead Iraqis feel about your brave efforts to secure their liberties?
First of all, inspections weren't the issue, Saddam was brutalizing his people. Inspections weren't going to liberate one single solitary Iraqi citizen, no matter how long we did them. Bush never lied about a damn thing, he told you what his intelligence told him, and your rhetoric about an "unjust war" is tired and old, and I don't feel like debating it anymore, it's not the point either. Saddam was still brutalizing his people, and denying them freedom and liberty. His sons routinely raped and tortured women, gays were routinely killed or put into concentration camps, and people who even hinted at opposition to Saddam's brutal regime, were fed into wood chippers. You are on record with your principles, you were okay with this, it was fine with you to allow this to continue, as long as we didn't have to get involved. Don't know how the dead people feel, I suspect they don't feel much since they are dead. It's a shame that for liberty and freedom to prevail, some people have to die, I wish that didn't have to be the case, but it's not a reason to avoid fighting or freedom and liberty.
As for "liberals don't generally put themselves in harm's way," you kind of sound retarded when you say that. To start with, you are doing a great disservice to liberal members of our military. Second, you are really ignoring so many volunteer efforts on foreign soil throughout history. It's clear you don't know about these, and are doing your usual thing of confidently asserting your righteousness regarding something about which you have no clue, but that's par for the course.
There are no liberals in the military. At least not liberals like you! The ones who are there, are standing and fighting for the principles they claim to have, unlike you. As for 'volunteer efforts', there you go again with the "efforts" you like to trumpet. I guess you can claim to have principles as long as you can call something an "effort" and pretend it made a difference, huh?
Also, you switched your argument, since you were originally castigating me for not being "willing" to send others to fight Islamo-facism, which would seem to exclude the initial Iraq invasion. Now, you're doing your other usual thing of hopping all over the place, trying to argue one thing while using something you argued against only a few posts before. You're flailing, and pathetic, and realize somewhere beneath the insanity that your whole strawman of "liberals don't fight for their principles" is just that.
As always, I am SO glad I am not you. You're truly certifiable.
Damn, what a convoluted mouth full! I've not switched a damn thing. I have said all along, Liberals like to talk about protecting women's rights, gay rights, etc., but when it comes to actually doing something about it, their extent is to talk... (or make an "effort" by writing a check.) You have revealed several things in this dialogue; first, there is an insidious prejudice regarding liberalism... you believe in these rights for people here in the US, but not elsewhere. Second, you are more opposed to war than fighting for what is right. Third, this is about political popularity for you, and your principles take a back seat to that.
I'm glad you're not me too! That would be really weird!
