Your way was tried even before that....and rejected....why try it all again....
At some future time, yes, they may increase. They may also not increase. Then, again, they may increase and at a certain point spontaneously abort or miscarry and the cause is usually unknown. This is something one should value on par with a woman?
You asked for it.
AUSTRALIA: St. Augustine’s Orphanage, Geelong, Victoria during the 1950s.
At this Australian institution the boys lined up for their daily showers naked in serried files. One former resident told an Oral History Project researcher of the stunned look of a new superintendent when he saw the boys preparing for showers. A short time later, dressing gowns were purchased for each boy. Such an intrusive attitude was not unique to one type of institution; it was common across the residential care world. Jane Rose referred to the regular inspections after daily or weekly showers at a contemporary Barnardo’s Home: ‘After showers the boys lined up naked with their hands about their heads for the inspection of the duty officer’
http://www.nospank.net/coldrey.htm
CANADA: In 1992, a former Canadian Christian Brother was convicted for the following offence: ‘Brother Recker was guilty of assault for flicking the end of a wet towel into a boy’s naked buttock...on several occasions Recker snapped his naked buttock so hard that blood was drawn.’
An atmosphere of severity and widespread physical abuse combined with a tradition of regular enforced periods of nudity all encouraged sexual abuse of inmates. The evidence for the abuse is irrefutable.
The Christian Brothers were part of this care world, but a distinctive part. Moreover, there was a caring side in all these homes. They provided at a basic level for the children’s education and maintenance at a time when society generally did not care much what happened to young people who were at-risk. State resources provided for them were low and intended to provide only a modest standard of living approximate to that of the lowest levels of the working class from which most of the children came.
http://www.nospank.net/coldrey.htm
Of course we can't leave out the underlying reason behind orphanages. "To give such a woman who has fallen into sin and is desirous of escaping from its practice and degradation, an opportunity of hiding her shame by receiving her infant and thus removing the evidence of her disgrace."
Let's do the moral thing and institutionalize and abuse the little bastard.
MEXICO: 10News investigators have uncovered allegations of rape, torture and possible trafficking of children at an orphanage………10News got a hold of this story because of a little girl’s cry for help. The girl said a man who was supposed to be taking care of her molested her.
10News investigators obtained tax returns for International Children’s Care. The most recent return from 2005 showed the charity took in $4.6 million for Oasis and other orphanages in places like Congo, Thailand and Ukraine. Many of the orphanages are unregulated or have minimal oversight.
http://www.10news.com/news/10425187/detail.html
And then we have the UNITED STATES: $660,000,000 Clergy Abuse settlement - Los Angeles, CA:
Irwin Zalkin was one of the lead trial lawyers and part of the trial team prepared to commence a 14 victim trial against the Archbishop of Los Angeles on the day a global settlement was reached in the amount of $660,000,000.
$198,500,000 Clergy Abuse settlement - San Diego, CA:
Irwin Zalkin was appointed Mediation Liaison Counsel by a U.S. Magistrate Judge on behalf of over 144 victims of sexual abuse against the Bishop of San Diego resulting in a nearly $200,000,000 settlement.
$100,000,000 Clergy Abuse settlement - Orange County, CA:
Irwin Zalkin was part of the team of lawyers representing survivors who negotiated the first $100,000,000 settlement in the country involving sexual abuse by members of the Catholic clergy.
http://www.sexualabuse-attorneys.com/Sexual_Abuse/Orphanages.aspx
Roger Dean Kiser is the author of the books "Orphan, A True Story of Abandonment, Abuse and Redemption," "American Orphan" and now his newest book titled "RUNAWAY, Life on the streets-The Lessons Learned."
Roger will never forget how he and about 300 other children were treated as though they were less than human while living at the Children's Home Society Orphanage in Jacksonville, Florida during the 1950’s and 1960’s.
Even though the living conditions in orphanages are much better today than they were some years back. The fact remains that when these children one day leave the orphanage. When they do, they will forever be lacking in the emotional skills that it takes to stay in a loving relationship and/or raise a normal family.
These children, though fed clothed and housed in a decent manner do not realize that they are not getting the love and emotional support that they will need once they become adults. They do not even realize that these important elements are missing from their lives, because they have no idea what the words “love” and “affection” even mean. Most do not even realize that they are unhappy. All they know is that they are not as “unhappy” as they were in their former abusive situation.
IMAGINE...a Spartan bedroom room. A bed, a closet and a window. The floor is beige linoleum and the walls are dull white. All is neat, organized, military and utilitarian. Everywhere is clean, spotless and antiseptic.
The bed appears a fastidiously made single bed. The closet reveals nothing. It is very empty, as the child owns nothing.
http://www.oocities.com/united_states_orphanages/
And then we have the following: "White House Boys" Sue State Over Abuse at Florida State Boys School. 2.06.2009. First Coast News.
BRUNSWICK, GA - Roger Kiser remembers it like it was yesterday. "Unless you were there. Unless you saw how out of control it was, nothing mattered, life didn't matter."Kiser was at the Florida Reform School for Boys, now known as the Arthur Dozier School, back in the late 1950s. He says at the school, there was a place called the "White House" where he was taken numerous times for beatings. "They beat you until you were bloody," says Kiser.
According to a class action lawsuit filed against the state, a number of others who went to the school have the same memories. Court records detail how during the beatings, employees placed, "monetary bets (on who) could draw blood from the boys first."
One boy remembers, "After the blood curdling screams of a boy stopped, one of the state employees was heard to state, 'I think he is dead.'"
"I have heard...out of 86 men I've talked to, I'd say there are 30 who did not see boys return after their beating," says Kiser.
More than 30 graves have been found near the school's property. The state is now investigating who is buried there.
YouTube - U.S. Children Raped + Beat, Mass Graves at Juvenile Reform Center, Florida 'White House Boys'
That last entry took place in the 1950s. Less than 10 years before the birth control pill came on the market. That was orphanages and people suggest we should encourage…no, enforce and insist… microscopic cells develop inside women who do not want a child and then send the resulting child to an orphanage because….well, because they feel that is the moral thing to do.
In case someone believes abuse and neglect were rare occurrences we have:
Orphanages became extremely important in the UNITED STATES during the nineteenth century. This era experienced a great deal of financial hardships and violence. The Civil War claimed hundreds of thousands of lives, and diseases many more, orphaning children across the country. In many cases, parents did not posses the financial ability to adequately care for a child. As a result, hundreds of orphanages were established throughout the nation. These orphanages were responsible for providing children with shelter, food, clothing, and education.
As time progressed, it became commonly known that children in orphanages were subjected to abuse and neglect. As a result of the terrible conditions that were found in many UNITED STATES' orphanages, most of these institutions were closed down.
The United States began to focus on the foster care system in order to protect orphaned children. Today, some improved and modern group homes exist for orphans, however, foster care is considered to be a better option for children.
http://children-laws.laws.com/foster-care/orphanages/orphanages-overview
Australia. Canada. Mexico. United States. Same old, same old. Of course, it's not surprising the average Conservative/Republican favors outlawing abortion. As Obama noted they continually put forward old, tired, worn out, failed ideas. Not much changes.
Thats a long read....At some future time, yes, they may increase. They may also not increase. Then, again, they may increase and at a certain point spontaneously abort or miscarry and the cause is usually unknown. This is something one should value on par with a woman?
You asked for it.
AUSTRALIA: St. Augustine’s Orphanage, Geelong, Victoria during the 1950s.
At this Australian institution the boys lined up for their daily showers naked in serried files. One former resident told an Oral History Project researcher of the stunned look of a new superintendent when he saw the boys preparing for showers. A short time later, dressing gowns were purchased for each boy. Such an intrusive attitude was not unique to one type of institution; it was common across the residential care world. Jane Rose referred to the regular inspections after daily or weekly showers at a contemporary Barnardo’s Home: ‘After showers the boys lined up naked with their hands about their heads for the inspection of the duty officer’
http://www.nospank.net/coldrey.htm
CANADA: In 1992, a former Canadian Christian Brother was convicted for the following offence: ‘Brother Recker was guilty of assault for flicking the end of a wet towel into a boy’s naked buttock...on several occasions Recker snapped his naked buttock so hard that blood was drawn.’
An atmosphere of severity and widespread physical abuse combined with a tradition of regular enforced periods of nudity all encouraged sexual abuse of inmates. The evidence for the abuse is irrefutable.
The Christian Brothers were part of this care world, but a distinctive part. Moreover, there was a caring side in all these homes. They provided at a basic level for the children’s education and maintenance at a time when society generally did not care much what happened to young people who were at-risk. State resources provided for them were low and intended to provide only a modest standard of living approximate to that of the lowest levels of the working class from which most of the children came.
http://www.nospank.net/coldrey.htm
Of course we can't leave out the underlying reason behind orphanages. "To give such a woman who has fallen into sin and is desirous of escaping from its practice and degradation, an opportunity of hiding her shame by receiving her infant and thus removing the evidence of her disgrace."
Let's do the moral thing and institutionalize and abuse the little bastard.
MEXICO: 10News investigators have uncovered allegations of rape, torture and possible trafficking of children at an orphanage………10News got a hold of this story because of a little girl’s cry for help. The girl said a man who was supposed to be taking care of her molested her.
10News investigators obtained tax returns for International Children’s Care. The most recent return from 2005 showed the charity took in $4.6 million for Oasis and other orphanages in places like Congo, Thailand and Ukraine. Many of the orphanages are unregulated or have minimal oversight.
http://www.10news.com/news/10425187/detail.html
And then we have the UNITED STATES: $660,000,000 Clergy Abuse settlement - Los Angeles, CA:
Irwin Zalkin was one of the lead trial lawyers and part of the trial team prepared to commence a 14 victim trial against the Archbishop of Los Angeles on the day a global settlement was reached in the amount of $660,000,000.
$198,500,000 Clergy Abuse settlement - San Diego, CA:
Irwin Zalkin was appointed Mediation Liaison Counsel by a U.S. Magistrate Judge on behalf of over 144 victims of sexual abuse against the Bishop of San Diego resulting in a nearly $200,000,000 settlement.
$100,000,000 Clergy Abuse settlement - Orange County, CA:
Irwin Zalkin was part of the team of lawyers representing survivors who negotiated the first $100,000,000 settlement in the country involving sexual abuse by members of the Catholic clergy.
http://www.sexualabuse-attorneys.com/Sexual_Abuse/Orphanages.aspx
Roger Dean Kiser is the author of the books "Orphan, A True Story of Abandonment, Abuse and Redemption," "American Orphan" and now his newest book titled "RUNAWAY, Life on the streets-The Lessons Learned."
Roger will never forget how he and about 300 other children were treated as though they were less than human while living at the Children's Home Society Orphanage in Jacksonville, Florida during the 1950’s and 1960’s.
Even though the living conditions in orphanages are much better today than they were some years back. The fact remains that when these children one day leave the orphanage. When they do, they will forever be lacking in the emotional skills that it takes to stay in a loving relationship and/or raise a normal family.
These children, though fed clothed and housed in a decent manner do not realize that they are not getting the love and emotional support that they will need once they become adults. They do not even realize that these important elements are missing from their lives, because they have no idea what the words “love” and “affection” even mean. Most do not even realize that they are unhappy. All they know is that they are not as “unhappy” as they were in their former abusive situation.
IMAGINE...a Spartan bedroom room. A bed, a closet and a window. The floor is beige linoleum and the walls are dull white. All is neat, organized, military and utilitarian. Everywhere is clean, spotless and antiseptic.
The bed appears a fastidiously made single bed. The closet reveals nothing. It is very empty, as the child owns nothing.
http://www.oocities.com/united_states_orphanages/
And then we have the following: "White House Boys" Sue State Over Abuse at Florida State Boys School. 2.06.2009. First Coast News.
BRUNSWICK, GA - Roger Kiser remembers it like it was yesterday. "Unless you were there. Unless you saw how out of control it was, nothing mattered, life didn't matter."Kiser was at the Florida Reform School for Boys, now known as the Arthur Dozier School, back in the late 1950s. He says at the school, there was a place called the "White House" where he was taken numerous times for beatings. "They beat you until you were bloody," says Kiser.
According to a class action lawsuit filed against the state, a number of others who went to the school have the same memories. Court records detail how during the beatings, employees placed, "monetary bets (on who) could draw blood from the boys first."
One boy remembers, "After the blood curdling screams of a boy stopped, one of the state employees was heard to state, 'I think he is dead.'"
"I have heard...out of 86 men I've talked to, I'd say there are 30 who did not see boys return after their beating," says Kiser.
More than 30 graves have been found near the school's property. The state is now investigating who is buried there.
YouTube - U.S. Children Raped + Beat, Mass Graves at Juvenile Reform Center, Florida 'White House Boys'
That last entry took place in the 1950s. Less than 10 years before the birth control pill came on the market. That was orphanages and people suggest we should encourage…no, enforce and insist… microscopic cells develop inside women who do not want a child and then send the resulting child to an orphanage because….well, because they feel that is the moral thing to do.
In case someone believes abuse and neglect were rare occurrences we have:
Orphanages became extremely important in the UNITED STATES during the nineteenth century. This era experienced a great deal of financial hardships and violence. The Civil War claimed hundreds of thousands of lives, and diseases many more, orphaning children across the country. In many cases, parents did not posses the financial ability to adequately care for a child. As a result, hundreds of orphanages were established throughout the nation. These orphanages were responsible for providing children with shelter, food, clothing, and education.
As time progressed, it became commonly known that children in orphanages were subjected to abuse and neglect. As a result of the terrible conditions that were found in many UNITED STATES' orphanages, most of these institutions were closed down.
The United States began to focus on the foster care system in order to protect orphaned children. Today, some improved and modern group homes exist for orphans, however, foster care is considered to be a better option for children.
http://children-laws.laws.com/foster-care/orphanages/orphanages-overview
Australia. Canada. Mexico. United States. Same old, same old. Of course, it's not surprising the average Conservative/Republican favors outlawing abortion. As Obama noted they continually put forward old, tired, worn out, failed ideas. Not much changes.
.Why a birthday? What's so special about a birthday?
Nothing special about a birthday, pinhead....they could have made it 60 years after first grade...what difference does it make where the measurement starts? Its gotta start somewhere?
My comment was, "And, of course, we still have that elephant in the room which is what is the life of the fetus worth vis-a-vis the mother's health."
Why can't I get a straight answer from you or any of the other anti-abortionists? All I hear is a pregnant woman should have the right to abort for medical reasons. So, what medical reasons would justify the right for a woman with a defective body to kill an innocent human being, assuming a fetus is a human being?
You got a straight answer numerous times...NOW there are no reasons required, nothing.....others say "when the life of the mother is threatened"....
Has no one thought about that? Is the reason no one answers because it's all a lie and women wouldn't be allowed to abort regardless of any medical reason? Or is the reason persons pretending to stand tall for the value of life are afraid to show they are, in reality, uber-hypocrites if they answered the loss of a foot or toe or diminished eye sight or the loss of a kidney?
When mothers life is threatened has nothing to do with eyesight or loss of a toe....how does bearing a child cause the loss of a toe? If you're afraid the baby will fall out an crush her toe, just have the women move her feet farther apart, like she did to get into this position in the first place.
Most peculiar.
and I agree ...you are peculiar.
So is this where you got your education?
"...abortion is a necessary evil that we must accept out of respect for life."
