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[Bigdog]

You think that you're going to get away with the FACT that Israel also accepted the border definitions of 181 ? Astounding attempt at cherry-picking

Haw, haw.........................haw.

Yes, and the Palestinians did NOT declare which is why there was no Palestinian State at the time, and no agreed upon border, making 181 null and void.

181 already did that.

UNGAR can't create States.

Truman accepted the 181 borders as identified by the newly-declared Israeli state. I've already posted that twice. ben Gurion's letter to Truman contains no ambiguities.

There was no ' wilderness'. The British documented Palestinian civilization very thoroughly.

Yeah, Truman did. Guess he thought the palestinians and the 5 UN member muslim Stateswould agree to the borders, too. They didn't. 181 frontiers became null and void.

There was a territory- as delineated by 181. There was no Israeli state either until Israel's unilateral declaration and its ACCEPTANCE by the world community.

There was a recommendation. And Muslim Palestine did not declare statehood because it would mean recognizing Israeli statehood. Res 181 null and void. If you don't recognize Israel, there is no border.

242 references existing laws with respect to territorial integrity.

It's vague and provides no map or reference to 181.

You keep parroting this nonsense. A repeated lie never becomes truth.

You should listen to your own advice.

Res 181 never passed into law as you claim.

 

[moon]

Yes, and the Palestinians did NOT declare which is why there was no Palestinian State at the time, and no agreed upon border, making 181 null and void.

Wishful thinking. 181 was agreed and passed by the UN. Your attempts to peddle a fake history are indicative of a failed Zionist campaign.

UNGAR can't create States.

No, but it legally adopted the responsibilities of the British Mandate for Palestine and partitioned Palestine by way of UNGAR 181- which passed the UN vote. It's in all the history books. Well- maybe not yours

Haw, haw..........................haw.

Yeah, Truman did. Guess he thought the palestinians and the 5 UN member muslim Stateswould agree to the borders, too. They didn't. 181 frontiers became null and void.

Guessing what ' Truman thought ' is a fair indicator of your absence of grasp in your weak and torpedoed support of Israeli crime. 181 is still a UN authority in UN Resolutions.

There was a recommendation. And Muslim Palestine did not declare statehood because it would mean recognizing Israeli statehood. Res 181 null and void. If you don't recognize Israel, there is no border.

Your futile circles must be making you dizzy. A partition is a partition. 181 defined it. Statehood is a different matter entirely. Whether the Palestinians declared statehood within their legal borders was their prerogative. They were, imo, quite right in objecting to Zionist terror gangs being given half of their country. They still are- but the fates have conspired to legitimize Israel according to the 181 division and also to legitimize the Palestinian state - as recognized by the United Nations and 138 countries. Statehood has given Palestine access to the ICC- and Israel is under investigation. There will never be a greater Israel. Occupation is illegal, as is annexation. The Neo-Zionist criminals must comply with international law.

It's vague and provides no map or reference to 181.

It isn't ' vague ' at all. The borders referenced were adequately described. ( pre 1967 land-grab )

You should listen to your own advice.

Res 181 never passed into law as you claim.

181 remains the authoritative partition as backed by binding international law. Territory can never be gained by force. Read and weep.

 

[Bigdog]

Wishful thinking. 181 was agreed and passed by the UN. Your attempts to peddle a fake history are indicative of a failed Zionist campaign.



No, but it legally adopted the responsibilities of the British Mandate for Palestine and partitioned Palestine by way of UNGAR 181- which passed the UN vote. It's in all the history books. Well- maybe not yours

Haw, haw..........................haw.




Guessing what ' Truman thought ' is a fair indicator of your absence of grasp in your weak and torpedoed support of Israeli crime. 181 is still a UN authority in UN Resolutions.



Your futile circles must be making you dizzy. A partition is a partition. 181 defined it. Statehood is a different matter entirely. Whether the Palestinians declared statehood within their legal borders was their prerogative. They were, imo, quite right in objecting to Zionist terror gangs being given half of their country. They still are- but the fates have conspired to legitimize Israel according to the 181 division and also to legitimize the Palestinian state - as recognized by the United Nations and 138 countries. Statehood has given Palestine access to the ICC- and Israel is under investigation. There will never be a greater Israel. Occupation is illegal, as is annexation. The Neo-Zionist criminals must comply with international law.



It isn't ' vague ' at all. The borders referenced were adequately described. ( pre 1967 land-grab )




181 remains the authoritative partition as backed by binding international law. Territory can never be gained by force. Read and weep.

All that manufactured BS and you have still not provided evidence that ... Res 181 passed into Law.

"General Assembly resolutions and decisions have the same legal status.

General Assembly resolutions

reflect the views of the Member States,
provide policy recommendations,
assign mandates to the UN Secretariat and the subsidiary bodies of the General Assembly, and
decide on all questions regarding the UN budget.

With the exception of decisions regarding payments to the regular and peacekeeping budgets of the UN, General Assembly resolutions/decisions are not binding for Member States. The implementation of the policy recommendations contained in resolutions/decisions is the responsibility of each Member State. (Source: GA Handbook)"

https://ask.un.org/faq/14484

 

[moon]

All that manufactured BS and you have still not provided evidence that ... Res 181 passed into Law.

"General Assembly resolutions and decisions have the same legal status.

General Assembly resolutions

reflect the views of the Member States,
provide policy recommendations,
assign mandates to the UN Secretariat and the subsidiary bodies of the General Assembly, and
decide on all questions regarding the UN budget.

With the exception of decisions regarding payments to the regular and peacekeeping budgets of the UN, General Assembly resolutions/decisions are not binding for Member States. The implementation of the policy recommendations contained in resolutions/decisions is the responsibility of each Member State. (Source: GA Handbook)"

https://ask.un.org/faq/14484

You keep repeating nonsense- because you are attempting to defend the indefensible .
The UN adopted responsibility for Palestine from the British Mandate. The British were the LEGAL overseers of Palestine and their LEGAL division was legally implemented by UNGAR 181 when the UN PASSED it.
Try arguing with that.

Secondly, international law does not permit the taking of territory by force- therefore the divisions of Palestine , into Jewish, Arab and international sectors, are protected by law.
Arabs cannot take Jewish or international territory, Jews cannot take Arab or international territory.
The Israeli occupation of Palestine and Jerusalem are illegal.
There will never be a ' greater Israel ' as long as there is international law.
If you want to dispense with international law you are the criminal enemy. Do quit attacking it- because you look like a silly prosemite.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Secondly, international law does not permit the taking of territory by force-..

^^^^
Uses international law to support destroying Israel but disregards it when supporting Putin's attack on Ukraine.

 

[moon]

Dutch Uncle

When you think of my purple dick do you picture it fully erect and throbbing, Ms. Moon? https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...tation-as-military-superpower-shattered/page6 #83

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...tation-as-military-superpower-shattered/page6 #83

Uses international law to support destroying Israel but disregards it when supporting Putin's attack on Ukraine.

I don't have your penchant for hypocrisy, you degenerate racist prick.

Firstly- the Zionists withdrawing from illegally-occupied territory does not ' destroy Israel ', dumbass. Israel exists as a country without stealing parts of Palestine, Syria and Lebanon- all illegally occupied .

Secondly, the legality of unprecedented annexation of territory when its inhabitants all ASK FOR ANNEXATION has yet to be tested under law.
International law states that territory cannot be gained by FORCE and that borders may only change with the agreement of the parties. The territories occupied by Russia have all parted company with the Ukrainian government which owes its existence to a US-led coup. Those people see themselves as Russian. As far as they're concerned the Nazi Zelenskies are attempting to return them to slavery.

So, take your purple prick , fuck off and wave it elsewhere.


Haw, haw........................................haw.

 

[Bigdog]

You keep repeating nonsense- because you are attempting to defend the indefensible .
The UN adopted responsibility for Palestine from the British Mandate. The British were the LEGAL overseers of Palestine and their LEGAL division was legally implemented by UNGAR 181 when the UN PASSED it.
Try arguing with that.

Really? ... please quote the UN charter section that gives the UNGA the legal right to create a State and draw international borders.

Secondly, international law does not permit the taking of territory by force- therefore the divisions of Palestine , into Jewish, Arab and international sectors, are protected by law.
Arabs cannot take Jewish or international territory, Jews cannot take Arab or international territory.

The only legal international border in the Palestine mandate is the 1922 Transjordan border. The Muslims did NOT create a State in Palestine (except Jordan). They rejected the UN recommendation and chose war. Thus making 181 peace recommendations null and void.

Res 181 was never passed into law.

The status of the Palestine mandate was self governing the moment the Brit mandate ended. Self governing from the river to the sea. Those were the legal international borders.

 

[moon]

Really? ... please quote the UN charter section that gives the UNGA the legal right to create a State and draw international borders.

The UN adopted the legal responsibilities of the British Mandate for Palestine. The British had the legal power to partition Palestine and that power passed to the UN . 181 passed. The borders were drawn. They are protected by binding international law. Territory can never be gained by force. The Occupation is illegal

The only legal international border in the Palestine mandate is the 1922 Transjordan border. The Muslims did NOT create a State in Palestine (except Jordan). They rejected the UN recommendation and chose war. Thus making 181 peace recommendations null and void.

Res 181 was never passed into law.

The status of the Palestine mandate was self governing the moment the Brit mandate ended. Self governing from the river to the sea. Those were the legal international borders.

The UN adopted the legal responsibilities of the British Mandate for Palestine. The British had the legal power to partition Palestine and that power passed to the UN . 181 passed. The borders were drawn. They are protected by binding international law.Territory can never be gained by force. The Occupation is illegal

Tough tittie.

 

[Bigdog]

The UN adopted the legal responsibilities of the British Mandate for Palestine. The British had the legal power to partition Palestine and that power passed to the UN . 181 passed. The borders were drawn. They are protected by binding international law. Territory can never be gained by force. The Occupation is illegal

For which, you still refuse to provide evidence.
You can not cite the section of the UN charter.

Res 181 is NOT international law as you claim.

Tough tittie.

The commission refers only to the West Bank and Gaza Strip, ... NOT the 181 recommendations. Did you know that?

 

[moon]

For which, you still refuse to provide evidence.
You can not cite the section of the UN charter.

Res 181 is NOT international law as you claim.




The commission refers only to the West Bank and Gaza Strip, ... NOT the 181 recommendations. Did you know that?

Your incessant repetition deserves repetition. Disprove the law or be silent.

The UN adopted the legal responsibilities of the British Mandate for Palestine. The British had the legal power to partition Palestine and that power passed to the UN . 181 passed. The borders were drawn. They are protected by binding international law. Territory can never be gained by force. The Occupation is illegal

 

[Bigdog]

Your incessant repetition deserves repetition. Disprove the law or be silent.

The UN adopted the legal responsibilities of the British Mandate for Palestine. The British had the legal power to partition Palestine and that power passed to the UN . 181 passed. The borders were drawn. They are protected by binding international law. Territory can never be gained by force. The Occupation is illegal

I already disproved it. The authority is NOT in the UN charter.

 

[moon]

I already disproved it. The authority is NOT in the UN charter.

The authority is repeated, below,

The UN adopted the legal responsibilities of the British Mandate for Palestine. The British had the legal power to partition Palestine and that power passed to the UN . 181 passed. The borders were drawn. They are protected by binding international law. Territory can never be gained by force. The Occupation is illegal

You've disproved nothing. You don't even appear to know what you're supposed to be disproving.

Tell me- what is it that defines, inarguably, the Israeli occupation of Palestine as illegal ? I'll help you out. It's international law. You can take it from there.


Haw, haw............................haw.

 

[Bigdog]

The authority is repeated, below,




You've disproved nothing. You don't even appear to know what you're supposed to be disproving.

Tell me- what is it that defines, inarguably, the Israeli occupation of Palestine as illegal ? I'll help you out. It's international law. You can take it from there.


Haw, haw............................haw.

Just because some blogger says it, doesn't make it true.

Res 181 is NOT international LAW.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

 

[moon]

Just because some blogger says it, doesn't make it true.

Res 181 is NOT international LAW.

Not in itself, no- but international law grants it authority.


The UN adopted the legal responsibilities of the British Mandate for Palestine. The British had the legal power to partition Palestine and that power passed to the UN . 181 passed. The borders were drawn. They are protected by binding international law. Territory can never be gained by force. The Occupation is illegal

Demonstrate that occupation and annexation are LEGAL or admit that they're not and that 181 is the central authority, backed by binding international law- or be silent.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Cal-Berkely is a public school.
All public schools should be controlled by the US Depart of Education any time that Betsy DeVos isn't Secretary.
(Everybody involved with that nomination and confirmation should have been summarily lethally injected. I'm serious.)

If local control doesn't work in civilized California, imagine what a shit-show Florida and Texas must be.

And why is Mr. Rocket stupid enough to equate Stalin and Hitler who were arch enemies?

 

[Bigdog]

Not in itself, no- but international law grants it authority.


The UN adopted the legal responsibilities of the British Mandate for Palestine. The British had the legal power to partition Palestine and that power passed to the UN . 181 passed. The borders were drawn. They are protected by binding international law. Territory can never be gained by force. The Occupation is illegal

Demonstrate that occupation and annexation are LEGAL or admit that they're not and that 181 is the central authority, backed by binding international law- or be silent.

The League of nations transferred its assets and documents to the U.N.. It did NOT transfer any of its powers.

Res 181 did NOT create international borders.

 

[moon]

The League of nations transferred its assets and documents to the U.N.. It did NOT transfer any of its powers.

Res 181 did NOT create international borders.

The British had the power to divide Palestine under the British Mandate for Palestine. The British drew up the basis for UNGAR 181- as they were legally permitted to do- and their, legal, resolution was submitted to- and passed, by majority vote in the UN.
Once the British abrogated their responsibilities to Palestine the border details of their- now democratically authorized- plan fell under the auspices of existing international law regarding borders. Those laws forbid the taking of territory by force and forbid annexation unless agreed by the contracting parties. Thus the delineations of 181 are protected under binding international law.

181 provided territory for two states and an area, Jerusalem, of international territory protected by law. Naughty Zionists wanted it all. Tch, tch. Illegal. Tough tittie.

 

[Earl]

There is no Palestine.

https://www.quora.com › Why-does-the-US-not-recogn...
Oct 23, 2016 — Because Israel is a sovereign country and palestine as a state is political rhetoric. You can't recognise a state if it is not a state. You can't recognise a ...

Israel has been a very valuable American ally in the Middle East



The so called Palestinians are controlled by Hamas, a terrorist group.

Hamas is controlled and supported by Iran, a state sponsor of terrorism.

 

[moon]

There is no Palestine.

UN recognises Palestinian state
UN members have voted overwhelmingly to recognise Palestine as a state.

THE United Nations has voted overwhelmingly to recognise a Palestinian state, in a sharp rebuke for Israel and the United States.

In an extraordinary line-up of international support, more than two-thirds of the world body's 193 member states approved the resolution upgrading the Palestinians' status

https://www.news.com.au/world/break...e/news-story/196f156b2bc215216fc5dbd03a7ea503

Now fuck off, you spineless corporate dummy.



Haw, haw..........................haw.

 

[Earl]

The UN has no power to recognize any state and especially a non-state.

The UN is a very expensive debate club that accomplishes nothing.