ZenMode
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You should Google "mutually assured destruction".
The Ukraine ‘peace deal’ is proving to be a scam
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The proper way is to have soldiers take the ballots to the people and then make them fill them out while they watch?
Why would you think that is the "proper way?"
He isn't going to do anything but what he's always done, invade and loot as many of his neighbors as he can. Nobody is stopping him now, so he can break any treaty he wants to , and has.
Not Trump's best moment, listening to too many halfwit isolationist morons.
Yes. And these clueless ideologues think Putin can start 'WW III N Stuff'. lol
Trump's Me policies are working well, though. And, he will have to adjust his Euro policies in the face of Putin's 'Fuck You, HaHaHa' soon.
I imagine moon's fully aware that it wouldn't just be the U.S. going up in smoke. The point is that Russia isn't backing down and the more the U.S. escalates, the more the risk of nuclear annihilation looms for everyone. I have the sense that Trump is somewhat less senile than Biden and is taking steps to avoid this fate. His effort to find a peace deal may not yet have born fruit, but he hasn't stopped trying.
The U.S. can wipe out Russia's entire nuclear threat in a matter of minutes, and without using a single nuke of its own.
Your hysterical rubbish just helps Putin, not the Ukraine or the world. Appeasing vermin only increases the liklihood of world war, always has and always will..
Where on earth did you get that notion? For those who'd like to see some serious commentary on what apparently have almost happened recently, I recommend the following article from Scott Ritter:
SCOTT RITTER: 72 Minutes
Last weekend, the world came very close to nuclear war. By Scott Ritter Special to Consortium News Most Americans approached last weekend thinking about how they would spend the much-anticipated end of the work week with their friends and family. Few realize how close they came to actualiz
consortiumnews.com
Where on earth did you get that notion? For those who'd like to see some serious commentary on what may have almost happened recently, I recommend the following article from Scott Ritter:
SCOTT RITTER: 72 Minutes
Last weekend, the world came very close to nuclear war. By Scott Ritter Special to Consortium News Most Americans approached last weekend thinking about how they would spend the much-anticipated end of the work week with their friends and family. Few realize how close they came to actualiz
lol from real life. Scott Ritter's fantasy world never existed.
Scott Ritter has had a very distinguished career in regards to intelligence and arms control. From Wikipedia:lol from real life. Scott Ritter's fantasy world never existed.Where on earth did you get that notion? For those who'd like to see some serious commentary on what apparently have almost happened recently, I recommend the following article from Scott Ritter:
SCOTT RITTER: 72 Minutes
Last weekend, the world came very close to nuclear war. By Scott Ritter Special to Consortium News Most Americans approached last weekend thinking about how they would spend the much-anticipated end of the work week with their friends and family. Few realize how close they came to actualiz
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William Scott Ritter Jr. (born July 15, 1961) is an American former United States Marine Corps intelligence officer, former United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) weapons inspector, author, and commentator.
Ritter was a junior military analyst during Operation Desert Storm. He served as a member of UNSCOM overseeing the disarmament of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq from 1991 to 1998, from which he resigned in protest. Later he became a critic of the Iraq War and United States foreign policy in the Middle East.
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Scott Ritter - Wikipedia
What credentials, if any, do you have on these matters?
And he understands the Russians better than almost any other American.....he is in the top .1%.Scott Ritter has had a very distinguished career in regards to intelligence and arms control. From Wikipedia:
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William Scott Ritter Jr. (born July 15, 1961) is an American former United States Marine Corps intelligence officer, former United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) weapons inspector, author, and commentator.
Ritter was a junior military analyst during Operation Desert Storm. He served as a member of UNSCOM overseeing the disarmament of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in Iraq from 1991 to 1998, from which he resigned in protest. Later he became a critic of the Iraq War and United States foreign policy in the Middle East.
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Scott Ritter - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
What credentials, if any, do you have on these matters?
moon
Satire for Sanity
That is why the USA will never be the world's dominant country.
moon
Satire for Sanity
You are out of your skull, EdwinAss.
Haw, haw.............................................haw.
ZenMode
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Do you think Putin wants to a) die b) rule over a pile of rubble and corpses?
Ofcourse not, which I strongly suspect is why he's put so much effort into these peace initiatives with the U.S. Trump, being a bit less senile than Biden, has also put in some effort. It's obvious to anyone with a keen eye that a lot more is going to be needed to actually -achieve- a serious peace, but so long as a good chunk of energy is engaged in peace efforts, it's unlikely that things will escalate to nuclear annihilation. Which is a win for everyone.
The Ukraine ‘peace deal’ is proving a scam
The White House’s breathless – some might say witless – optimism at the beginning of the talks has evaporated.
Trump himself seems to be waking up to the realisation that the Kremlin is playing him for a fool.
Two rounds of peace talks in, and the basic rhythms of Putin’s unique negotiating style are becoming clear: Lie. Bomb. Lie. Bomb.
Just a day after a new supposed breakthrough this week in Riyadh on a moratorium on attacks in the Black Sea, Putin’s deadly drones once again swarmed into Kharkiv destroying apartments and stores and injuring 21 people.
After Donald Trump spoke to Vladimir Putin earlier this month, the White House claimed that “a future with an improved bilateral relationship between the United States and Russia has huge upside” and spoke of “enormous economic deals and geopolitical stability when peace has been achieved”.
Days later Kremlin representatives sat down with their US counterparts in Saudi Arabia and agreed a partial ceasefire suspending attacks on energy infrastructure. Putin claimed that he had issued orders to cancel an imminent strike. Later that very night Russian missiles rained down on Kyiv, killing a young family in their beds.
This week the pattern has repeated. Putin’s envoys claimed that a ceasefire on the Black Sea had been thrashed out that would allow free export of Russian grain and fertilisers. Another lie, or at least a distraction, because neither commodity is currently sanctioned or restricted.
What the Kremlin really wants is free passage for its oil tankers and cover for its battered Black Sea Fleet to return to its base at Sevastopol, from which it has been forced to withdraw by Ukrainian missile attacks. And even as the delegations flew home, 86 deadly Iranian-made Shahed drones were rolled out of their containers, assembled, armed and launched at Kharkiv. More than 20 made it through Ukrainian defences, bringing more fire and fury to Kharkiv’s long-suffering civilians even as Putin claimed to be talking peace.
But perhaps Trump and his billionaire oil lawyer envoy Steve Witkoff aren’t the suckers that Putin takes them for. For one, the White House’s breathless – some might say witless – optimism at the beginning of the talks has evaporated. The tone of the readout of this week’s talks in Riyadh was bone-dry: “The United States and Russia will continue working toward achieving a durable and lasting peace.”
Trump himself seems to be waking up to the realisation that the Kremlin is playing him for a fool.
The Ukraine ‘peace deal’ is proving a scam
Two rounds of peace talks in, and the basic rhythms of Putin’s unique negotiating style are becoming clear: Lie. Bomb. Lie. Bomb. Just a day after a new supposed breakthrough this week in Riyadh on a moratorium on attacks in the Black Sea, Putin’s deadly drones once again swarmed into Kharkiv...news.yahoo.com
Brainless leftist pinhead doesn't know what "scam" means. We didn't hear a word from you during the scandalous four-year Biden scam pretending he was President. Dumbass. 
CNN told you that you brainless little halfwit?
Your posts never age well. That is because you're a brainless leftist who would vote for morons like Biden and Kamala.
But hey, we bathe in brainless leftists tears.
Lie, lame and stupid; in other words, typical post from you.
Translation: "why not continue to fund a never ending war will hundreds of thousands more will die"?
Translation: "why use good judgement when you can use emotion, wring your hands and send more money"?
Translation: "let's fabricate dumb claims and strawmen instead of dealing with facts and reality."
If ever there was someone that defined worthless piece of shit, Cypress (cryingpus) is the poster boy.
Another brainless dumbass terrorist hugger who supports terrorists, despots and dictators.
ZenMode
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A peace initiative would be Putin NOT invading a sovereign country for no reason.
This, what, the third time Putin has invaded Urkaine? There's no reason to believe long term peace is possible any more than it's possible to have long term peace between Gaza and Israel.