Dixie - In Memoriam
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Nope, I was referring to dreaming and imagination.
I don't know why you are obsessed with me being afraid of something, but it is extremely interesting to note, you are. Reality has nothing to do with spiritual faith or nihilism, we both experience the same reality, don't we? Is something different happening in your world than mine? Why would I be afraid of what is happening? Why would you believe that I am afraid, are you afraid? Perhaps this was subconscious transference? Did you just reveal the reason you are a nihilist? Because you are afraid of a reality where spirituality exists?
Crusader is the perfect word, you do fight for a cross, yours is upside-down, but it's still a cross. Yes, we do need to have the discussion on why faith in atheistic belief is not faith, because it defies logic or the meaning of the word faith. Your lame explanations for why humanity has ALWAYS worshiped something, and has ALWAYS had the connection to spirituality, defies the very nature of Darwinist theory as well as biological evidence we have from every species of life ever studied. To pass it off as some un-needed anomaly, when it is so intrinsically tied to our species, is contrary to science, and to continue to ignorantly deny this, is based on nothing more than your FAITH in your BELIEF in Atheism.
Nope, I am asking you, a nihilist, what would be the possible motivation for you to behave "good?" You are worm food no matter if you are good or bad, right? If you treat your fellow man with respect, and do the 'right things' in life... you are still worm food in the end, it doesn't really matter, right? So why bother doing good? Why bother being moral or ethical? What is a "moral code" when life and existence mean nothing? As a Nihilist, you should believe that Hitler was just as "moral" as Billy Graham, because "morality" is merely a word created by men, to define the spiritual-based ethos of humanity. So are "reason, compassion, and understanding" in this context. Morality means absolutely nothing if life is meaningless, it defies any sense of logic otherwise. Now, since you don't want to be viewed as a person with no moral compass and no basis for morality, you have conveniently redefined it to include the rhetoric you spout which supposedly 'proves' you can be a moral atheist nihilist. It's like claiming you can purchase just as much property as Donald Trump because you own a Monopoly game!
Do you have proof it doesn't exist? THAT is the question here!
The first thing we have to do is clarify what is meant by "exist." Do you mean, can I give you physical proof that afterlife physically exists in our known reality and physical universe, where science applies? Nope... can't give you that, because we are not dealing with something physical science can explain, or even something it supposed to "exist" in our physical understanding and comprehension. Can you prove you love your mother? You can tell me you do, and maybe you can even do things to make it appear you do, but can you ever prove to me that you love her? Now, you know you do, there isn't any question of that, but it's not something that can be proven with physical evidence. Does that mean it doesn't exist? I guess so, if you are a nihilist, huh... after all, Mum's just worm food, right!
Well I do think this life is the only one of my existence here on this planet at this time. I do cherish every moment of it, and I don't gamble on anything. This has absolutely nothing to do with my faith in spirituality and my personal spiritual foundation and understanding. The real gamble as I see it, is in going against the natural state of every human who is born, not an Atheist. To refute the nature of human spirituality when 95% of the species exhibits the behavior... that's a real scientific risk, if you ask me.
Nihilism means "moral" conscience is meaningless. It is nothing more than an obstacle to keep you from exploring gratifications by establishing taboos. Nihilists invest in self-service and self-interest. You can indeed invest interest in your children, but in the end, they are just worm food too, right? Their souls and spirit don't really exist, that will all be gone when they become worm food. very depressing indeed.
Who said I thought this life was a prelude? Again, I believe this life and existence in this universe at this time, is finite and will end when I die. It's not a prelude to anything, it is a completely and totally different production. What comes after this? I have not a clue!! No idea whatsoever! Oh, I have notions... but I can't 'prove' or 'disprove' anything, so what difference does it make? I guess I'll have to wait and see... hope I don't get there, and God says... "shoulda listened to them Jehovah's Witness people!" If that turns out to be the case, I'm fucked. But regardless of what I think or believe, I do have a spiritual understanding and foundation, and I believe that to be real, whether it is or not. I am compelled by this spiritual faith to behave in a decent and moral manner, and treat others with respect and dignity. I don't do this out of "fear" that I will be punished in an afterlife, or that I will be "rewarded" in said afterlife. for me personally, it is a matter of positive and negative energy flow.... very scientific... when I do good things, good things happen. Same with bad things... Karma, that's what a lot of people call it, and I believe in it like you believe you love your Mum.
Nope, but truth is a FACT. Sux, yeah?
Again, if it doesn't matter, if there is no innate meaning, what is the motivating reason for behaving in a selfless and ethical way toward others? If the only justification is what's in it for you, then your character becomes shallow and you have no integrity. This always results in feelings of inadequacy, searching for something to fill that void... it's a cycle.
Calm down dear!You are confusing abstract notions with nihilism. Considering nihilism is an abstract notion, nihilists certainly don't believe that abstract notions can't exist. I can believe that there is no innate meaning to existence, yet still invest meaning in my daughter, consider her to be precious and describe her as sweet without there being a compromise.
What? You have some physical scientific evidence of "abstract notions?" You MUST... you said you believed they exist! So you can invest meaning to your daughter, but it is innately meaningless to do so? Wow... does your daughter understand this? And again... some people think WORMS are "precious and sweet" and the worms need to be fed. How does it feel to know all your daughter is or ever will be, is ultimately meaningless to everyone except some hungry worms awaiting her demise?
What difference does it make to you? Why is it so important to respond to me? You obviously have some motivation because you continue responding. If you believe there is no innate meaning to existence, that is SAD to me... that's all I said. I didn't tell you that you mustn't believe that way or you are wrong and I can prove it... I just said I thought it was sad and depressing.
You can 'pretend' to have morality, I never said you couldn't do that, either. AssClown used to run around spouting some nonsense about pack mentality, insisting that "morality" was cooperation for the mutual benefit of both parties, or some such nonsense. Morals, or the things we commonly accept as morals, are pretty much ALL based on the belief in spiritual reprisal. Without spirituality, there is no basis or fundamental purpose for moral behavior, and you demonstrate that beautifully in your personal political views. It's easy to justify any immorality, when you have no reason to do otherwise.
