Yakuda
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So we agree that a conviction is proof of a conviction not necessarily crime. Good for you for not trying to pretend like you people usually do.I am sure you will just say it was rigged.
So we agree that a conviction is proof of a conviction not necessarily crime. Good for you for not trying to pretend like you people usually do.I am sure you will just say it was rigged.
Acquittal/dismissal, or thrown out on appeal by a REAL court.It seems the trumpets are adamant that there was no crime charged and no evidence of a crime in Trumps NY trial.
The non-trumpers see that a crime was charged and that evidence was presented.
Looks like closing Arguments might start as soon as Monday.
So what is your prediction?
I never know what a jury is going to do, but I think this one could go either way. There is evidence for every element of the crimes, but if the jury believes it all adds up to reasonable doubt or not, I cannot guess.
My gut says they will not be an outright acquittal, so if I had to guess I would say hung jury or conviction.
From my view, a single misdemeanor conviction would be enough for justice to at least start.
he wasn't convicted of anything involving Trump......he was convicted of perjury and tax fraud......What is funny is he spent 3 years in jail for lying to cover for Trump., who was called person 1 in his trial. Actually, it is sad. Trump abandoned him refusing to help him with legal fees. Trump did not need him anymore.
What are you doing? You know facts give them headaches.he wasn't convicted of anything involving Trump......he was convicted of perjury and tax fraud......
it makes me happy........What are you doing? You know facts give them headaches.
The deposit bet is a hung jury, which then Donnie will fictionalize as a proof of innocence and his victimhoodIt seems the trumpets are adamant that there was no crime charged and no evidence of a crime in Trumps NY trial.
The non-trumpers see that a crime was charged and that evidence was presented.
Looks like closing Arguments might start as soon as Monday.
So what is your prediction?
I never know what a jury is going to do, but I think this one could go either way. There is evidence for every element of the crimes, but if the jury believes it all adds up to reasonable doubt or not, I cannot guess.
My gut says they will not be an outright acquittal, so if I had to guess I would say hung jury or conviction.
From my view, a single misdemeanor conviction would be enough for justice to at least start.
I don’t know how they do it in New York, but one interesting piece of fallout if it is a hung jury would be the possibility that this case would be retried before the election.The deposit bet is a hung jury, which then Donnie will fictionalize as a proof of innocence and his victimhood
There was a reason why he fought anyway he could to insure the other three cases were postponed till after the election and only routinely attacked this one, it is a weak case, and fits his martyr schtick
You think it is always that when one witness is caught mixed up on facts it = not guilty?Well since Cohen lied and lied on the stand. ....If the jury is fair it will be a not guilty
When the star witness lies..... Cast reasonable doubt that's all that's needed dumbassYou think it is always that when one witness is caught mixed up on facts it = not guilty?
You think Cohen was the star witness?When the star witness lies..... Cast reasonable doubt that's all that's needed dumbass
You think Cohen was the star witness?
You makes your opinions based on PBS?
It makes no difference what the jury does, after Cohen's testimony, the entire world knows what a sham this and it will do nothing but boost Trump's poll numbers.Well since Cohen lied and lied on the stand. ....If the jury is fair it will be a not guilty
They did it because he is a fucking traitor...and the very worst president America has ever had.All I know is this........If I were a left wing politician or power broker I would be scared out of my mind right about now. Trump WILL be re elected,....and when he is,.......there will be Hell to pay. He's only human,... who could blame him. They have done their level best to make his life a living nightmare hell for EIGHT STRAIGHT YEARS and they did it all for pure POLITICAL REASONS not for what is just or right. Do you really believe that is going to go unpunished? Not hardly. Whole lotta boomerang action coming to a whole lotta people after next November and NOBODY can say that it hasnt been WELL EARNED.
It seems the trumpets are adamant that there was no crime charged and no evidence of a crime in Trumps NY trial.
The non-trumpers see that a crime was charged and that evidence was presented.
Looks like closing Arguments might start as soon as Monday.
So what is your prediction?
I never know what a jury is going to do, but I think this one could go either way. There is evidence for every element of the crimes, but if the jury believes it all adds up to reasonable doubt or not, I cannot guess.
My gut says they will not be an outright acquittal, so if I had to guess I would say hung jury or conviction.
From my view, a single misdemeanor conviction would be enough for justice to at least start.
How, pray tell, is ANYONE going to testify that Trump did not know? How is this guy supposed to KNOW that Trump did not know? How would anyone but Trump know that.Michael Cohen’s ex-lawyer tells Congress Trump ‘fixer’ lied about ‘hush money’ — and that former prez knew nothing
He will be a witness for the defense
And unlike Cohen this lawyer has not been convicted of perjury
They did it because he is a fucking traitor...and the very worst president America has ever had.
As you noted, though, the scum bag wll exact retributioin if he wins.
First he will come for them....then he will come for the rest of you.
No matter what...the MAGA morons lose in November. They either lose the election and cry like babies about being cheated...or Trump wins the election and we ALL LOSE.
The man is a monster, Stone. You are abetting a monster.