cawacko
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We were talking about the Fed and moral hazard. Are we only allowed to speak about Clinton, Bush, Obama and Trump?
Trump announces 8,000 more jobs for American workers
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We were talking about the Fed and moral hazard. Are we only allowed to speak about Clinton, Bush, Obama and Trump?
(laughing) Sure he did. Just like he brought in those 5000 call center jobs.
He means his President elect, who doesn't pay any taxes
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Trump Just Showed Us We Should Always Assume He Is Lying... Again
Donald Trump is a prolific liar. That’s neither an opinion nor a criticism, but a statement of scientific fact. In the midst of the presidential campaign, Politico analyzed a few hours of Trump’s speeches and found he lied once every five minutes on average. PolitiFact gave Trump its Lie of the Year Award for 2015, and has since determined that only 15 percent of Trump’s words are true or even mostly true. Toronto Star journalist Daniel Dale, who fact-checked Trump for 33 days and found he told as many as 25 lies in a 24-hour period (excluding debates, when he crammed up to 34 lies into 90 minutes), wrote that Trump “lies strategically. He lies pointlessly. He lies about important things and meaningless things. Above all, he lies frequently.” Trump lies so effortlessly and consistently that the Washington Post created a plug-in that, lacking the human tendency to grow fatigued, fact-checks Trump’s lie-filled tweets in real time.
With that track record, every single statement released by Trump or one of his many spokespeople, all paid liars, should be presumed a lie in need of fact-checking. The media’s default position should be that everything expelled by the Trump machine, via the mouth of Trump, his Twitter feed or his flacks' talking heads, is an untruth that should be accompanied by a disclaimer.
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As you should absolutely expect, Trump was lying. Seppala found that way back in October, Sprint’s parent company, SoftBank, announced that “the company was sinking $100 billion into a tech-investment fund.” Reports of the new hires were being touted as long ago as April 2015. In other words, Trump had no hand in generating the jobs at Sprint that he took credit for on Wednesday. The company had already publicly boasted about its creation months ago.
All this is troubling for a number of reasons. Even for a politician, Trump’s tendency toward easily refutable lies seems nearly unprecedented. This is the third time in recent memory that he has lied to make it seem like he’s delivering on campaign promises about jobs. Earlier this month, Trump attacked a union leader who called out his lies about saving jobs at air-conditioner manufacturer Carrier, and weeks before that Trump was caught lying about his role in keeping Ford jobs stateside. We should see those lies coming by now, or at least recognize them as lies, because lying is all Trump is capable of doing.
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The people who voted for Trump don’t care if he’s telling the truth, but the rest of us should. Authoritarians are bad at the truth, and capitalize on complacency and confusion. The demagogue in our midst is counting on us growing so accustomed to the atmosphere of lies that we breathe them in like air without noting its choking toxicity. The best strategy for the media, and for all of us, is to regard every Trump statement as a lie waiting to be disproved.
http://www.alternet.org/media/trump-just-showed-us-we-should-always-assume-he-lying-again
Donald Trump is a prolific liar. That’s neither an opinion nor a criticism, but a statement of scientific fact. In the midst of the presidential campaign, Politico analyzed a few hours of Trump’s speeches and found he lied once every five minutes on average. PolitiFact gave Trump its Lie of the Year Award for 2015, and has since determined that only 15 percent of Trump’s words are true or even mostly true. Toronto Star journalist Daniel Dale, who fact-checked Trump for 33 days and found he told as many as 25 lies in a 24-hour period (excluding debates, when he crammed up to 34 lies into 90 minutes), wrote that Trump “lies strategically. He lies pointlessly. He lies about important things and meaningless things. Above all, he lies frequently.” Trump lies so effortlessly and consistently that the Washington Post created a plug-in that, lacking the human tendency to grow fatigued, fact-checks Trump’s lie-filled tweets in real time.
With that track record, every single statement released by Trump or one of his many spokespeople, all paid liars, should be presumed a lie in need of fact-checking. The media’s default position should be that everything expelled by the Trump machine, via the mouth of Trump, his Twitter feed or his flacks' talking heads, is an untruth that should be accompanied by a disclaimer.
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As you should absolutely expect, Trump was lying. Seppala found that way back in October, Sprint’s parent company, SoftBank, announced that “the company was sinking $100 billion into a tech-investment fund.” Reports of the new hires were being touted as long ago as April 2015. In other words, Trump had no hand in generating the jobs at Sprint that he took credit for on Wednesday. The company had already publicly boasted about its creation months ago.
All this is troubling for a number of reasons. Even for a politician, Trump’s tendency toward easily refutable lies seems nearly unprecedented. This is the third time in recent memory that he has lied to make it seem like he’s delivering on campaign promises about jobs. Earlier this month, Trump attacked a union leader who called out his lies about saving jobs at air-conditioner manufacturer Carrier, and weeks before that Trump was caught lying about his role in keeping Ford jobs stateside. We should see those lies coming by now, or at least recognize them as lies, because lying is all Trump is capable of doing.
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The people who voted for Trump don’t care if he’s telling the truth, but the rest of us should. Authoritarians are bad at the truth, and capitalize on complacency and confusion. The demagogue in our midst is counting on us growing so accustomed to the atmosphere of lies that we breathe them in like air without noting its choking toxicity. The best strategy for the media, and for all of us, is to regard every Trump statement as a lie waiting to be disproved.
http://www.alternet.org/media/trump-just-showed-us-we-should-always-assume-he-lying-again
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
actually my biggest problem with Obama is the fact he did nothing.......not that he created low quality jobs......
cawacko
Well-known member
Him doing nothing would have been a good thing. His actions were what hurt us
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
of course Obama is lying.......he's always been lying.....
So you have nothing....but a single lie.
I asked a direct non leading question, can (will) you answer it or not?
Your willfully ignorant opinion is noted.
cawacko
Well-known member
The bridge to nowhere was a lie? That is just a small example
Your right. Too small, and I never supported it. That was the lie and you still have nothing.
cawacko
Well-known member
The question wasn't whether you supported it or not
Bitching? I am just asking you politely to show what great jobs Obama brought in. By your own statement. Apparently you are falling flat on your face again. I mean really, either put up or shut up. Kind of simple.
I'll go over this again and try to type more slowly. These are shit jobs in insignificant number that Trump had NOTHING to do about bring in. (Still with me?)
Now, on another thread, you lemmings pissed and moaned about the low quality jobs created under Obama. So, where's your outrage now, douchenozzle? That's right. Nothing but silence when Orangetweet takes credit.
Fucking lemmings.
Now, on another thread, you lemmings pissed and moaned about the low quality jobs created under Obama. So, where's your outrage now, douchenozzle? That's right. Nothing but silence when Orangetweet takes credit.
Fucking lemmings.
Here, this is what you said "And discounting the quality of jobs that Obama brought in." So I will ask you again. What quality jobs with good pay, good benefits did Obama bring in? Why is this so difficult for you to answer? It appears the only slow, dimwitted person here is you. Taking you way to long to back up your statement. Can you or not?
Cancel 2018.2
Oh, hi
Only stupid hacks would bitch about Trump bringing jobs.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Only an ignorant fool would believe that he has.
You do your own homework. He saved a helluva a lot of jobs better than this pissant set in his stimulus package and the auto industry bailout.
Thanks for the attempt at diverting from the topic. A little too uncomfortable for you to admit that Orangetweet, your hero, is a self-aggrandizing, pathological liar and really had nothing to do with these jobs?
But, I'll ask again since you failed to answer. Where's your bitch about these shit jobs, bitch?