Trump imposes tariff on 180 countries, exempts Russia, Belarus, Cuba and North Korea.

gfm7175 said:
IOW, the leftist news is lying, attempting to manipulate people into believing that "farmers in red states", in significant numbers, are "turning on Trump", saying "this isn't what I voted for"... and you are soooooooooo gullible that you just bought into it hook line and sinker without bothering to ask any simple questions such as: "Are these couple of farmers representative of all farmers in general? or "How many farmers actually feel this way? or "Why am I not hearing any farmers say this except for the couple of hand-picked ones on the TV screen?"

What does "a lot" of farmers mean? Two farmers? Twenty farmers? Two thousand farmers? Two hundred thousand farmers?

What policies is Trump enacting right now that he didn't campaign on?

Seems to me like you're trying to make a big deal out of nothing, just like the leftist fake news does. I "wonder why that is"......
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Go TROLL somebody else moron.
 
gfm7175 said:
RQAA.
1) Which farmers are supposedly saying this? (aka, show them to me)
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gfm7175 said:
2) What IS "this"? In other words: Which Trump policy(ies) got sprung upon these farmers by surprise that they didn't specifically and knowingly vote for?
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gfm7175 said:
(After all, they loooooooooooved Trump just a few short months ago, but they haaaaaaaaaaaaaaate Trump now, correct?)
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gfm7175 said:
I know what a farmer is. My best friend is a farmer. I am neighbors with a farmer. My parents were raised on farms. --- The definition of 'farmer' isn't the issue at hand here.

I'm well aware of that as well. However, as you've already admitted, that could mean "2 farmers" or that could mean "200,000 farmers". You need to be more specific, as there's a big difference between the two. The latter would be a significant number; the former is essentially zero.
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Because you need to actually form an argument. When you're claiming that there's all sorts of "farmers in red states" that are saying "this isn't what I voted for" (point being that Trump is noticeably "losing support" of those farmers), then you need to SHOW those farmers to me. You also need to specify what "this" is. Is it Trump's tariff policies? Is it Trump's energy policies? What specifically didn't those people vote for that Trump is now doing by surprise to them?
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gfm7175 said:
I didn't look at the first link. Your second link is mostly just some dude's opinion about the matter, insulting farmers' intelligence along the way. You're still not making any point.
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Void argument. You have not looked at all the links since they answer your questions.
gfm7175 said:
You still haven't specified what you're actually trying to claim or what the claim means or why anyone should take the claim seriously. How can I "move the goalposts" when you won't make a clear claim or clearly explain what you're trying to conclude from said claim?
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If you're trying to say that "two farmers feel a certain way", then I see no reason to think anything of it in terms of "OMGGGGG TRUMP IS LOSING SUPPORT AMONGST FARMERS". If that's not what you're trying to say, then explain to me what it is that you're saying.
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RQAA. But just out of sympathy for your stupidity. Maybe you should actually read all the links I posted and in particular the letter sent by all those farmer associations.

By the way, China just put a 34% tariff on soybeans from the US. The US exported $12.84 BILLION to China last year. That was over 50% of soybean exports. I'm sure soybean farmers will more than happy that they just lost more than half their export market.
 
IBDaMann said:
whereas trade between countries such as Russia, Cuba, Belarus and North Korea, who were not engaging in any unfair trade practices with the US, will remain unaffected.
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Let's take North Korea, it extremely limits imports from the USA, and uses slave labor to unfairly make their exports. I cannot think of any country with more unfair trade practices.

More importantly, trump promised sanctions against Russia, and instead has made sanctions against almost everyone but Russia.
 
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