Trump was unable to understand national security threats

[LurchAddams]

Okay, that means he's on a level slightly ahead of Biden in doesn't understand foreign policy area. That doesn't argue well for wanting either one of them to be elected in 2024...

John Bolton, a right-wing hawk states trump is a major threat to both national security and to the Republican party. So either trump is an idiot for appointing Bolton or Bolton has a point.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...p&cvid=ceb265f04a014e12b34af908a8f651ec&ei=10

"No, I wouldn't sign that pledge. I am not going to support Donald Trump. This is not a matter of party loyalty. I think he did enormous damage to the country and certainly to the Republican party in the four years he served. All that is repairable, and I think it is being repaired, but four more years of Donald Trump could do significant permanent damage to the country and the Republican party."

 

[Nordberg]

Trump has been right about China, and willing to tell the truth about China, both of which have been rare for decades.

Dont be Dumb.

He did no such thing. China has never been a mystery. It is sad that our manufacturers created them by moving all the manufacturing to China.
If we had a war with them, we would have to buy our weapons from them. Being capitalists, they would sell them to us. China has a fraction of our wealth and a much smaller army. https://www.businessinsider.in/defe...aries/slidelist/51930339.cms#slideid=51930374

 

[T. A. Gardner]

John Bolton, a right-wing hawk states trump is a major threat to both national security and to the Republican party. So either trump is an idiot for appointing Bolton or Bolton has a point.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...p&cvid=ceb265f04a014e12b34af908a8f651ec&ei=10

"No, I wouldn't sign that pledge. I am not going to support Donald Trump. This is not a matter of party loyalty. I think he did enormous damage to the country and certainly to the Republican party in the four years he served. All that is repairable, and I think it is being repaired, but four more years of Donald Trump could do significant permanent damage to the country and the Republican party."

Bolton has long been a dangerous loose cannon in Dirty City. I can remember reading some of his tard stuff all the way back to the late 80's where he advocated starting wars for various reasons. Trump is hardly the first, or last, person that had Bolton around. At least so far, nobody's taken Bolton's warmongering advice seriously.

 

[Lightbringer]

Trump was unable to understand national security threats

I'm willing to bet real money he understands them a lot better than you do.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Plenty of people have questioned Biden's competence on foreign affairs

The Atlantic is usually a Biden friendly magazine

Biden’s Long Trail of Betrayals
Why is the president so consistently wrong on major foreign-policy matters?
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/biden-afghanistan-record/619799/

Is Biden’s Foreign Policy Clumsiness Due to Incompetence or Arrogance?
https://www.cato.org/commentary/bidens-foreign-policy-clumsiness-due-incompetence-or-arrogance

Biden’s foreign policy fiascos demand immediate changes
https://thehill.com/opinion/nationa...eign-policy-fiascos-demand-immediate-changes/

International opinion of Joe Biden in 6 charts (It ain't good, hint, hint)
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/07/25/international-opinion-of-joe-biden-in-6-charts/

Joe Biden's Growing List of Failures
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-bidens-growing-list-failures-opinion-1654002

Ex-Obama adviser: Why Biden must fire his national security adviser for Afghanistan failure
The people, plans and processes that President Joe Biden has put in place to keep America safe are not working.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...oreign-policy-team-failed-america/8145997002/

Even freaking CNN, all but an open arm of the DNC, is calling Biden incompetent.

Joe Biden is facing a crisis of competence
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/16/politics/joe-biden-afghanistan-border-masks-covid-19/index.html

Why Biden’s China Reset Is a Bad Idea
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/06/02/biden-china-xi-burns-beijing-reset-detente-election-campaign/

Biden is easily the most incompetent president we've had in close to a century, possibly longer, on handling foreign affairs. He has a half-century track record of being on the wrong side of every policy in this area he makes.

TA, on his worst day in office, Joe Biden has been a MUCH, MUCH more competent president than Trump was on his best day in office. Joe Biden is FAR from the most incompetent president we've ever had...and honestly, that title will probably remain Trump's from now until the end of our Republic.

 

[Walt]

Yep. he sure had a grasp on a damn balloon, which should have been shot down the minute it entered American airspace.

trump decided to just ignore the balloons that flew over the USA during his presidency, so you really do not have anything to complain about.

 

[RB 60]

trump decided to just ignore the balloons that flew over the USA during his presidency, so you really do not have anything to complain about.

Were they real weather balloons or intel gathering balloons like the one Biden allowed to access our military installations?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

TA, on his worst day in office, Joe Biden has been a MUCH, MUCH more competent president than Trump was on his best day in office. Joe Biden is FAR from the most incompetent president we've ever had...and honestly, that title will probably remain Trump's from now until the end of our Republic.

One word: Afghanistan.

Biden loses.

 

[floridafan]

On Feb. 2, NBC News was first to report that the Chinese spy balloon was flying over the U.S. and that President Joe Biden had considered shooting it down, prompting the administration to publicly confirm that and disclose it had been monitoring the balloon for days. Once the balloon’s existence became public, China increased its speed, officials said, in attempt to get it out of U.S. airspace as quickly as possible.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...cted-intelligence-us-military-bases-rcna77155

Yep. he sure had a grasp on a damn balloon, which should have been shot down the minute it entered American airspace. But no, Biden left it gain intel all across the US, as well as our military installations.


FJB

All one needs is to speak of any of Trumps many failures, and your job is not to comment on these failures, but to change the subject as quickly as possible.

 

[archives]

Trump went through an Ivy before they collapsed...and he has been successful in multiple domains........I dont buy the story that he is an idiot no matter how often the claim is repeated.

Trump got in, and went thru Penn, because of daddy’s donations

 

[archives]

One word: Afghanistan.

Biden loses.

No argument, the withdrawal was a disaster, but any exit was sabotaged by Trump’s private deal with the Taliban, why would anyone in the Afghan forces or Gov’t aid the withdraw when Trump cut them out of his secret negotiations with the Taliban

 

[Ross Dolan]

One word: Afghanistan.

Biden loses.

Trump promised to get us out of Afghanistan. He didn't, but Joe Biden actually did. Joe Biden is the clear winner on that issue.

I guess Trump was waiting for Mexico's check to clear for the beautiful wall he built across the entire southern border.

 

[Nordberg]

Biden withdrew on the date that Trump had negotiated. The rightys are saying he would have breached his deal. And that would be a good thing.

 

[LurchAddams]

Bolton has long been a dangerous loose cannon in Dirty City. I can remember reading some of his tard stuff all the way back to the late 80's where he advocated starting wars for various reasons. Trump is hardly the first, or last, person that had Bolton around. At least so far, nobody's taken Bolton's warmongering advice seriously.

You're so wrong. He was one of the Bush Neocons. Bush seemed to take him seriously and trump appointed him to his cabinet.

 

[Phantasmal]

Plenty of people have questioned Biden's competence on foreign affairs

The Atlantic is usually a Biden friendly magazine

Biden’s Long Trail of Betrayals
Why is the president so consistently wrong on major foreign-policy matters?
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/biden-afghanistan-record/619799/

Is Biden’s Foreign Policy Clumsiness Due to Incompetence or Arrogance?
https://www.cato.org/commentary/bidens-foreign-policy-clumsiness-due-incompetence-or-arrogance

Biden’s foreign policy fiascos demand immediate changes
https://thehill.com/opinion/nationa...eign-policy-fiascos-demand-immediate-changes/

International opinion of Joe Biden in 6 charts (It ain't good, hint, hint)
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/07/25/international-opinion-of-joe-biden-in-6-charts/

Joe Biden's Growing List of Failures
https://www.newsweek.com/joe-bidens-growing-list-failures-opinion-1654002

Ex-Obama adviser: Why Biden must fire his national security adviser for Afghanistan failure
The people, plans and processes that President Joe Biden has put in place to keep America safe are not working.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...oreign-policy-team-failed-america/8145997002/

Even freaking CNN, all but an open arm of the DNC, is calling Biden incompetent.

Joe Biden is facing a crisis of competence
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/16/politics/joe-biden-afghanistan-border-masks-covid-19/index.html

Why Biden’s China Reset Is a Bad Idea
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/06/02/biden-china-xi-burns-beijing-reset-detente-election-campaign/

Biden is easily the most incompetent president we've had in close to a century, possibly longer, on handling foreign affairs. He has a half-century track record of being on the wrong side of every policy in this area he makes.

All our articles I clicked on were from 2021, do you have anything more current now that Biden has been in office. I bet they’re mostly positive and it’s why you had to go back to 2021.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

No argument, the withdrawal was a disaster, but any exit was sabotaged by Trump’s private deal with the Taliban, why would anyone in the Afghan forces or Gov’t aid the withdraw when Trump cut them out of his secret negotiations with the Taliban

Biden was under no obligation to follow what Trump did, any more than he was with continuing the border wall, as one example. The above is just dissembling to redirect blame onto Trump. Biden fucked away Afghanistan all on his own, just as he as fucked up every foreign policy decision he's ever made. That isn't to absolve Trump of anything, but rather to put the blame where it belongs.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

All our articles I clicked on were from 2021, do you have anything more current now that Biden has been in office. I bet they’re mostly positive and it’s why you had to go back to 2021.

Irrelevant appeal to modernity. Biden was fucked up then, and as some of those articles point out, he was a fuck up for decades before that. He hasn't suddenly become competent in the last year or so.

 

[Yakuda]

Reacting to a report that Donald Trump was sharing highly sensitive government documents with visitors at his Bedminster resort, a former national security adviser to ex-vice president Mike Pence said she was very concerned but not overly surprised.

Olivia Troye pointed out that in her dealings with the former president who is now facing possible Espionage Act charges, he was very cavalier with sensitive information.

"I think Trump is seriously a very unstable and unfit leader," she said. "He was very trivial when it came to matters of national security, and he did not have the grasp to understand the gravity of certain situations; the strategic understanding of what it meant internationally and regionally when some of these decisions were being discussed, and potentially being made.

"I'll say this, my own direct boss, Pence's national security advisor, General [Keith] Kellogg, played a significant role at times when talking Trump out of things when it comes to Iran," she added. "So when this reporting surfaced, I just said to myself, you know, colleagues of mine and I have been talking to each other about this when this classified doc situation surfaced. We said, 'What do you think it is?' And this was actually one of our bets, was it was related to possibly Iran because of his fixation with this whole scenario.

And biden is unable to understand what day it is.

 

[evince]

Okay, that means he's on a level slightly ahead of Biden in doesn't understand foreign policy area. That doesn't argue well for wanting either one of them to be elected in 2024...

Thanks for the Putin point of view

 

[evince]

Trump went through an Ivy before they collapsed...and he has been successful in multiple domains........I dont buy the story that he is an idiot no matter how often the claim is repeated.

You don’t buy anything

Putin doesn’t give you enough rubles to buy anything