Why do conservatives hate gay people?

Perhaps I just hit too close to home on Dixie. He is welcome to call me gay if he wants to because I know better

I don't happen to think "being gay" is a perjorative, so why would I call you that? Seems to me, you are a little "homophobic" for thinking that being called gay is an insult of some kind. Of course, you will vehemently deny this, just as most racist people will deny they are prejudiced against blacks, but people can derive this by what you say and what you infer, and that was my only point.

If someone patronizes black people by only using analogies that involve racism or slavery, I'd say that is a form of bigotry too.

I don't feel that I do this, T. I merely made an example and presented it for consideration, and thusfar, I don't see anyone with a valid arguement to dispute what I said, including yourself. I am a staunch believer in treating all people fairly and judging them by the content of their character, and what they say, not their skin color, religious belief, or in this case, sexuality. When I see bigotry and prejudice, whether it is against a gay person or gays in general, or whether it is against blacks, hispanics, Christians, or anyone else, I speak out against it.
 
IHateGovernment said:
Two main reasons.

1. Christianity and other religions condemn homosexuality. Now their religions condemn other things but these things are more commonplace so they are less sensitive to them.

2. At least with male homosexuality anti-homosexuals view homosexuality of a refutation of the virtues of masculinity and it is an afront to them that gays embrace what they see as an inferior feminine position.

The second group often don't have a problem with lesbians and even jack off to porno depicting it.
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I say that at least half of them are scared that if they see two men kissing, they'll get an erection, and then have to kill themselves. It's all about the repression. I walk around my gym locker room naked all the time and I don't care if a woman checks me out. Because I'm not a repressed lesbian. Doesn't bother me.

Repression cases are real head cases though.
 
Nah, I think I understand where Dix is coming from. If every "insult" I threw was about how "jewish" you were what would you think of me?

Or, every insult had something to do with "ebonics" or "nappy haired"...

Or, I kept calling you "savage redskin" as an insult...

so on...

for some reason it's okay to insinuate "gay" as an insult, but none of these others?
 
uscitizen said:
Dixie, I know you just loved the time you spent with me Last weekend, please be nice and call me. Miss ya kissy kissy.

signed your llittle liberal luvy duvy ....
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LMAO.... So, this is supposed to make me angry or something? I'm supposed to get all upset at you for making up a supposed gay affair with me? Or perhaps, it's your attempt to feign tolerance for homosexuality by parodying yourself that way? I don't really understand the purpose, but it is damn funny.

I was born an artist. I have a creativity level that is far greater than the average person, and always have. In my endeavors as an artist, albeit a bit stereotypical, I happen to encounter many gay people, as they are most often, also very creatively gifted. Because of close working relations with homosexuals, I have been assumed gay many times, so it really doesn't bother me. What is insulting to me, is that you think "gayness" is something that would bother someone, because you understand it would certainly bother you.... demonstrated by your "I know I am not a gay man!" statements...I am only "prejudiced" against one type of person, and that is, those who are prejudice and bigoted.

Yes, I will call Rob a gay pejorative to make a point to him, because he needs to realize his own hypocritical prejudices and bigotry sometimes, (like this thread's title, for instance) and a cold slap in the face is often the best, and most efficient way to do that, on a message board... very gratifying sometimes, as well. But, I digress...

The points I make here are not indicative of my personal life in any way, and my opinions are expressed in the context of open and discrete adult discussion, not a constantly professed publicly pronounced viewpoint. I don't walk around Birmingham with a bullhorn, shouting Queers Will All Burn In Hell! Yet, I bet you someone here, thinks that is the kind of person I am, by what I have expressed before, or someones false perception of what I have said. I am called a racist regularly, because my moniker, my state, and past history of the South... this is prejudiced, bigoted, and wrong to do, no matter what your basis is. My personal beliefs might even be far different than what I would choose to argue, articulate and defend here, on the basis of general principle. One thing is for certain, I will defend what I believe in to the hilt. I oppose prejudice and bigotry with a passion, and when I see it in other forms, I will point it out to whoever deserves it.

At the risk of offending T... I have studied Dr. King, and I understand what he envisioned, and how it had to be achieved, and it wasn't by grouping us into categories and forming stereotypical bigoted cultural views toward each other, based on these categories, it was to recognize that we all have equal value as children of God... aka: humans... and we should never allow ourselves to see each other differently.

But I doubt Dr. King knew anything at all about Pinheads.
 
robdastud said:
Just curious.
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Logical fallacy. We don't "hate gay people." As for the folks who beat up / kill gays, they're non-political and non-religious. Do you honestly think Matt Shepherd's killers were conservative Christians? Heck, one of them was gay himself!
 
It seems to me, certain liberals are very quick to throw out the supposed "insult" of being gay, as if that is the worst possible thing they can imagine being called. Funny for a group of people who claim they aren't prejudiced against gays, isn't it?

Calling people gay only works when they are homophobic.

It doesn't mean that saying someone is gay is an insult, just that it is a rhetorical tool to get under the skin of a homophobe.
 
Damocles said:
Nah, I think I understand where Dix is coming from. If every "insult" I threw was about how "jewish" you were what would you think of me?

Or, every insult had something to do with "ebonics" or "nappy haired"...

Or, I kept calling you "savage redskin" as an insult...

so on...

for some reason it's okay to insinuate "gay" as an insult, but none of these others?
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And I noted that if that were the case it would be a form of bigotry. However, I have serious doubts as to whether or not USC did that as Dixie is claiming.
 
AnyOldIron said:
It seems to me, certain liberals are very quick to throw out the supposed "insult" of being gay, as if that is the worst possible thing they can imagine being called. Funny for a group of people who claim they aren't prejudiced against gays, isn't it?

Calling people gay only works when they are homophobic.

It doesn't mean that saying someone is gay is an insult, just that it is a rhetorical tool to get under the skin of a homophobe.
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So using "Jew" in an insulting way only would work with Skinheads and therefore doing it makes the person you are "insulting" a Skinhead? Is this your argument really?
 
AnyOldIron said:
It seems to me, certain liberals are very quick to throw out the supposed "insult" of being gay, as if that is the worst possible thing they can imagine being called. Funny for a group of people who claim they aren't prejudiced against gays, isn't it?

Calling people gay only works when they are homophobic.

It doesn't mean that saying someone is gay is an insult, just that it is a rhetorical tool to get under the skin of a homophobe.
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You got it AnyOldIron :) Works pretty well too :)
 
So using "Jew" in an insulting way only would work with Skinheads and therefore doing it makes the person you are "insulting" a Skinhead? Is this your argument really?

With skinhead I would remind him that no European blood is 'pure', that he is highly likely to have Jewish blood in his veins.

Not an insult unless the person being accused rabidly detests Jews.

It wouldn't work on normal people, if I were to tell you that it is highly likely that you have Jewish blood, you are likely to say 'so what'....

Attacking an Achille's heel, that's all it is....
 
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Calling people gay only works when they are homophobic.

It doesn't mean that saying someone is gay is an insult, just that it is a rhetorical tool to get under the skin of a homophobe.

Nice spin. Virtually any bigoted pejorative you can come up with, is "a rhetorical tool to get under the skin" of whoever you are directing it at. My question is, why do you think being gay is a pejorative? Why do you think it's alright to use "gay" as a pejorative? To me, it doesn't matter why you are doing it, or who you are doing it to, it's bigoted and wrong, regardless of your spin.

The fact that uscitizen felt the most insulting thing he could say, was an inference that someone was homosexual, speaks volumes for how uscitizen views gay people.
 
AnyOldIron said:
So using "Jew" in an insulting way only would work with Skinheads and therefore doing it makes the person you are "insulting" a Skinhead? Is this your argument really?

With skinhead I would remind him that no European blood is 'pure', that he is highly likely to have Jewish blood in his veins.

Not an insult unless the person being accused rabidly detests Jews.

It wouldn't work on normal people, if I were to tell you that it is highly likely that you have Jewish blood, you are likely to say 'so what'....

Attacking an Achille's heel, that's all it is....
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Difference. In one, nobody referenced the "likelihood" there was a certain percentage of "gay" in the other person. They simply suggested that the other person was gay in a derogatory manner.

Thus a better analogy would be calling somebody a "kike" in the hopes that you'll hit a skinhead and they'll get mad. Then you can say that you only use that word to insult people who are skinheads so it's all good that you use it.
 
I have serious doubts as to whether or not USC did that as Dixie is claiming.

I posted his actual statement, he admitted he said it. What do you have serious doubts about?
 
If we're all going to start taking grave offence at the casual use of words, then damn you, i'm going to join in.

Stop bashing the skinheads, they're not all neo-nazi, jew-baiting thugs you know. Skinhead culture was originally an offshoot of the ska scene and embraced black culture. Bloody yanks.
 
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