Yoga in schools called "Hindu Indoctrination"?

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"MASSENA, N.Y. - A group of parents and religious leaders in upstate New York want yoga classes out of public schools, saying the instruction violates boundaries between church and state.

Two high school teachers began using yoga last year to help students relieve stress before exams. Special education teacher Martha Duchscherer and Spanish teacher Kerry Perretta also were developing a districtwide program.

But those plans were halted after parents and others in the community complained students were being indoctrinated in Hindu rites.

"We are not opposed to the benefits. We can understand the benefits. We are opposed to the philosophy behind it and that has its ties in Hinduism and the way they were presenting it," said the Rev. Colin Lucid of Calvary Baptist Church in Massena.

Board: No hidden religious activity
The program does not have ulterior motives, Julie Reagan, Massena Board of Education president, said Thursday.

"If the school board felt there was any hidden religious activity behind the motives of our two instructors, we certainly wouldn't allow that," she said. "There is absolutely none of that. The teachers are well intended and trying to offer an aspect of fitness in the classroom that relaxes and readies the children for better learning."

A hundred schools in 26 states use yoga in the classroom to relieve stress, Reagan said. Federal funds and grants are available to educators seeking yoga certification, she said.

According to a statement on the Web site of the American Yoga Association, yoga is not a religion, although its practice has been adopted by Hinduism, as well as other world religions.

There are more than 100 different schools of yoga, which seeks to bring harmony to the mind and body. The most commonly practiced type in the United States is hatha yoga, which encompasses physical movements and postures, plus breathing techniques.

"It's been a little discouraging that this program has taken on a negative tone," said Duchscherer, who has taught in the Massena district for 11 years. "The intention was never to teach religion. ... It was to introduce relaxation techniques."

Reverend: Program causes stress
But Lucid believes the voluntary program causes stress and should be offered as an after-school activity.

"People have made it a religious war, and it's not a religious war. We are basically concerned parents, saying we don't want our children participating in something that could cause them more stress and confusion," Lucid said.

Parents in Aspen, Colo., were successful in demanding the removal of yoga in the local curriculum in 2002. In Alabama, religious leaders pushed for a 1993 law prohibiting the teaching of yoga in schools, citing connections between yoga and Hindu religious training."


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Has anyone here ever done yoga? Did it have any religious significance to you?

I have done yoga off and on since the mid 70s. Never once did I experience anything remotely resembling hindu indoctrination or a serious connection to a religion.
 
These are your people Damo. Tell them you are a Budhist and others would use it against you. Next time you run a primary campaign let it slip that you work for you candidate and what you believe and there will be a republican attack ad going after your beliefs you heathen idol worshipper.
 
The purpose of yoga is to reach a spritual state of conciousness.

why don't they just call it exercise if has nothing to do with hindism?

BTW, I don't give a shit, but I'm trying to see it from the perspective of those who do have a problem with it. It's a bit like people being offended by Christmas and how we call it holiday season instead.
 
"MASSENA, N.Y. - A group of parents and religious leaders in upstate New York want yoga classes out of public schools, saying the instruction violates boundaries between church and state.

Two high school teachers began using yoga last year to help students relieve stress before exams. Special education teacher Martha Duchscherer and Spanish teacher Kerry Perretta also were developing a districtwide program.

But those plans were halted after parents and others in the community complained students were being indoctrinated in Hindu rites.

"We are not opposed to the benefits. We can understand the benefits. We are opposed to the philosophy behind it and that has its ties in Hinduism and the way they were presenting it," said the Rev. Colin Lucid of Calvary Baptist Church in Massena.

Board: No hidden religious activity
The program does not have ulterior motives, Julie Reagan, Massena Board of Education president, said Thursday.

"If the school board felt there was any hidden religious activity behind the motives of our two instructors, we certainly wouldn't allow that," she said. "There is absolutely none of that. The teachers are well intended and trying to offer an aspect of fitness in the classroom that relaxes and readies the children for better learning."

A hundred schools in 26 states use yoga in the classroom to relieve stress, Reagan said. Federal funds and grants are available to educators seeking yoga certification, she said.

According to a statement on the Web site of the American Yoga Association, yoga is not a religion, although its practice has been adopted by Hinduism, as well as other world religions.

There are more than 100 different schools of yoga, which seeks to bring harmony to the mind and body. The most commonly practiced type in the United States is hatha yoga, which encompasses physical movements and postures, plus breathing techniques.

"It's been a little discouraging that this program has taken on a negative tone," said Duchscherer, who has taught in the Massena district for 11 years. "The intention was never to teach religion. ... It was to introduce relaxation techniques."

Reverend: Program causes stress
But Lucid believes the voluntary program causes stress and should be offered as an after-school activity.

"People have made it a religious war, and it's not a religious war. We are basically concerned parents, saying we don't want our children participating in something that could cause them more stress and confusion," Lucid said.

Parents in Aspen, Colo., were successful in demanding the removal of yoga in the local curriculum in 2002. In Alabama, religious leaders pushed for a 1993 law prohibiting the teaching of yoga in schools, citing connections between yoga and Hindu religious training."


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Has anyone here ever done yoga? Did it have any religious significance to you?

I have done yoga off and on since the mid 70s. Never once did I experience anything remotely resembling hindu indoctrination or a serious connection to a religion.

i used to teach hatha, phrana and tantric yoga - it may have started in india but it is not a religious practice

i wonder if the same people would complain about teaching akido for PE

the union of mind, spirit and body through breathing, stretching and meditation has existed in several forms around the world for centuries

it is not a religion, certainly not hindu - gac
 
The purpose of yoga is to reach a spritual state of conciousness.

why don't they just call it exercise if has nothing to do with hindism?

BTW, I don't give a shit, but I'm trying to see it from the perspective of those who do have a problem with it. It's a bit like people being offended by Christmas and how we call it holiday season instead.

while spiritualism is a part of most religions, it can exist by itself without religious overtones

maybe their problem is that it is a way to improve oneself without going to church or other religious institutions
 
I truly believe that if everyone in this country did hatha yoga and tai chi on a daily basis, our national healthcare would cost less than what most states spend on it now.

And there would be far less rage. And there would be people who used to make aspirin, tylenol, aleve, and Done's pills that would be out of work.

I have practiced several different variations or a couple of different religions. None of them effected my yogo.
 
Solitary. Is it ok for them to have christian meditation class?
There are people who also believe the country would be better is all were forced to worship allah or die. There are people who believe it would be best if all supplicated ourselves to christ.

Yoga is inseparably bound to religious concepts.
 
while spiritualism is a part of most religions, it can exist by itself without religious overtones

maybe their problem is that it is a way to improve oneself without going to church or other religious institutions


It is intrinsically religious. Maybe their problem is they don't want hindu indoctrination in schools.
 
I truly believe that if everyone in this country did hatha yoga and tai chi on a daily basis, our national healthcare would cost less than what most states spend on it now.

And there would be far less rage. And there would be people who used to make aspirin, tylenol, aleve, and Done's pills that would be out of work.

I have practiced several different variations or a couple of different religions. None of them effected my yogo.

You think the Dixies of the world would allow you to teach our kids that heathen foreign stuff when they can learn good ole American exercise. Like working for Viacomp for $1.25/hr laying cable?

You do have a good point about teaching the principles of stress management.
 
"Only in America!" as we say on this side of the Atlantic. I was particularly impressed by the self-effacing comment from the bigot-in-chief of the Calvary Church of Massena that he was not looking for a "religious war". Really?
 
What the fuck are they teaching yoga for? And don't give me that bullshit about stress. This is a perfect example of whats wrong with education in America. This is where they focus all there energy, on feel good bullshit.
 
Mental clarity, focus and control is not a religion.

It is however a threat for many religions that exist on fear and chaos.
 
Yoga has no religious connotations. There is no religious meaning mentioned in a yoga class.


Asshat, you would have to define "christian meditation". Meditation is not a religious exercise in its own right. When you add christianity to it, it becomes a religious practice and should not be allowed in a public school.
 
What the fuck are they teaching yoga for? And don't give me that bullshit about stress. This is a perfect example of whats wrong with education in America. This is where they focus all there energy, on feel good bullshit.

Feel good bullshit? Suicide is the third leading cause of death for kids between 15 & 24. Obesity is at epidemic levels.

Learning a practice that will teach kids to handle stress and is a good physical exercise is not bullshit.
 
Learning clarity and calm thoughts is a good thing.
It allows one to focus on what is truly important and filter out the static that causes so much stress and strife and bad decisions.
 
These are your people Damo. Tell them you are a Budhist and others would use it against you. Next time you run a primary campaign let it slip that you work for you candidate and what you believe and there will be a republican attack ad going after your beliefs you heathen idol worshipper.
It's a bit silly. Kind of like calling Aikido a "religious practice" for Buddhists. Or King-Fu for Confucianism...
 
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