Same-sex couples begin marrying

WinterBorn said:
Normal? LOL!! Look around at the statistics for men who molest their daughters or relatives, and the rampant domestic abuse in our world. You call that normal?
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No, I call it immoral. But that is not typical. Your argument suggests that the standard for married heterosexual men is child molestation; that this is normal behavior for this group. I don't molest my child, and neither does anyone else, within my circles, molest their children. I'm not even sure that I know a child molester.
 
Granule said:
"you breeders"? Do you know how stupid that sounds, Howard? I keep hearing you people bark about these "unwanted children", and you never get into the details. Tell me more about this process.
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It's called "adoption", breeder. It's when a normal same sex couple take in, care for, educate and love one or more of the tens of thousands of unwanted children you breeders throw to the curb.
 
Howey said:
It's called "adoption", breeder. It's when a normal same sex couple take in, care for, educate and love one or more of the tens of thousands of unwanted children you breeders throw to the curb.
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I didn't ask for the definition of adoption, disease spreader. I asked for the details of these adoptions. For example: WHO throws these unwanted children to the curb? Is it normal people like me, or is it twisted perverts, like you?
 
PostmodernProphet said:
what do you mean "implication"?.....are you pretending there's even an alternative?........heterosexuality IS the norm.....the fact that there are other abnormalities within nature, like abusers (and yes, cancer) does not change the fact that homosexuality is one of the abnormalities.......
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I mean that the poster seemed to imply that since the straight parents were "normal" the kids would be better off. That is why I mentioned the other deviations that can cause harm. My point was, and still is, that looking strictly at the sexual orientation does not tell you anything useful about them as parents.
 
Granule said:
It's a key component, wouldn't you agree?

It's a key component, wouldn't you agree? The reproductive organs are in place for a reason, yes?
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Sex is part of a marriage. But it is not the only thing involved in a marriage. And yet, it is the sole focus of those who disagree with gay marriage. Every other part of the marriage is the same for gay or straight marriages. I would guess that the first 10 years of marriage would be 10% sex and 90% everything else?

Yes, the reproductive organs are there for a reason. And if the human race were on the verge of extinction and if there were no way that gays could have kids if they have outside assistance, the reproductive issue might be important. We aren't, they can, so it isn't.
 
Granule said:
No, I call it immoral. But that is not typical. Your argument suggests that the standard for married heterosexual men is child molestation; that this is normal behavior for this group. I don't molest my child, and neither does anyone else, within my circles, molest their children. I'm not even sure that I know a child molester.
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My point is that immoral behavior can be found in both gays and straights. Just as moral behavior can be. I know quite a few gay couples that are as normal as anyone. And I know some straight couples that are sexual deviants by most standards.

Using sexual orientation as the sole criteria for determining whether someone is "normal" or "moral" enough to marry is laughable.
 
Granule said:
I didn't ask for the definition of adoption, disease spreader. I asked for the details of these adoptions. For example: WHO throws these unwanted children to the curb? Is it normal people like me, or is it twisted perverts, like you?
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Are you implying that homosexuals have children, then throw them to the curb? :palm:
 
Granule said:
I didn't ask for the definition of adoption, disease spreader. I asked for the details of these adoptions. For example: WHO throws these unwanted children to the curb? Is it normal people like me, or is it twisted perverts, like you?
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Yes, it is the "normal" everyday breeder like you who cares so little for a child that you feel the need to abandon it and put it up for adoption. Thousands of times per week and tens of thousands of times per year.

You perverted breeders should be required to prove you'll give a child a happy, productive life before you're allowed to put a dick into a pussy. Until then, I'd like to suggest mandated sterilization of breeders until such time as you exhibit the maturity to raise a child.

You first.

Until then, we gays will continue to provide that child with a happy, productive live. Despite your perversions.

Sycamore said:
Are you implying that homosexuals have children, then throw them to the curb? :palm:
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btw, Granule, while the incidence of AIDS is falling and a cure is on the horizon, perhaps you breeders should start looking in the mirror and put an end to the precipitious and alarming trend of veneral disease among breeders?

Fucking perverts.
 
Jarod said:
Do you know anything about when they changed the law to say married women are no longer owned by a husbands? Was that not a change in the marriage contract? Was that not a posative move?
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dumb fuck can't tell the difference between property law and the definition of marriage.....must be a liberal.....
 
WinterBorn said:
I mean that the poster seemed to imply that since the straight parents were "normal" the kids would be better off. That is why I mentioned the other deviations that can cause harm. My point was, and still is, that looking strictly at the sexual orientation does not tell you anything useful about them as parents.
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as long as we're clear on what is normal and what is not......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
pretending that someone who has an abnormal physical attraction to someone of the same sex is "as normal as anyone" is ridiculous.....
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Normal is not the issue. There has never been a standard of "normal" for straight marriages. There are some seriously abnormal straight couples who were given a marriage license without question.
 
WinterBorn said:
Normal is not the issue. There has never been a standard of "normal" for straight marriages. There are some seriously abnormal straight couples who were given a marriage license without question.
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silly semantic games aimed at dodging the issue.....it is undeniable that straight marriage is normal and same sex marriage is not.......the fact that there are other abnormal things and that straight people may be involved in them does nothing to change that fact.......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
silly semantic games aimed at dodging the issue.....it is undeniable that straight marriage is normal and same sex marriage is not.......the fact that there are other abnormal things and that straight people may be involved in them does nothing to change that fact.......
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You are incorrect; because two people who love each other, who are violating no laws, should be allowed to marry.
 
WinterBorn said:
Since marriage is about consenting adults, and no one (or thing) is forced to marry without consenting, your strawman argument is ridiculous. Thanks for playing, but try and stay with the actual topic.
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The sheep and mules are willing....so whats your real point....that all these activities are just to be accepted....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
silly semantic games aimed at dodging the issue.....it is undeniable that straight marriage is normal and same sex marriage is not.......the fact that there are other abnormal things and that straight people may be involved in them does nothing to change that fact.......
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I'm not trying to dodge any issue. The fact that gays have not been allowed to marry does not mean it is right. There is not rational reason the gov't should not recognize their unions in the same way it recognizes straight ones, and for the same reasons.
 
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