Fast Food Workers Protest Poverty McWages

There is nothing shameful in taking a job at McDonald's...

This does not mean that you are worth more than the market bears. The reality is these jobs really can be filled by the least educated and skilled... Demanding more than they would get for the job is counterproductive. You simply hand the job to somebody that fits that bill.
 
There is nothing shameful in taking a job at McDonald's...

This does not mean that you are worth more than the market bears. The reality is these jobs really can be filled by the least educated and skilled... Demanding more than they would get for the job is counterproductive. You simply hand the job to somebody that fits that bill.

Oh, that was so Zen.
 
There is nothing shameful in taking a job at McDonald's...

This does not mean that you are worth more than the market bears. The reality is these jobs really can be filled by the least educated and skilled... Demanding more than they would get for the job is counterproductive. You simply hand the job to somebody that fits that bill.

Of course not. Tell that to the thousands and thousands of professionals who had to find fast food jobs when the economy tanked six years ago. You know, the same guys and gals the right berated, telling them that. Unfortunately, very few of them were hired.

Why? Because with all the talk about how it's so easy to work at these places, it costs thousands and thousands of dollars to retrain each new worker once that professional finally finds a job in his field.

Take a look at this guy, another representative fast food worker. There's literally hundreds of thousands like him out there...working two, three jobs just to scrape by.

You know who they are, Damo. You guys call them "TAKERS"

Tyree Johnson scrubs himself with a bar of soap in a McDonald’s (MCD) bathroom and puts on fresh deodorant. He stashes his toiletries in a Kenneth Cole bag, a gift from his mother who works the counter at Macy’s, and hops on an El train. His destination: another McDonald’s.

Johnson isn’t one of Chicago’s many homeless people who seek shelter in fast-food joints. He’s a McDonald’s employee, at both stores -- one in the Loop, the other about a mile away in the shadow of Holy Name Cathedral.
He needs the makeshift baths because hygiene and appearance are part of his annual compensation reviews. Even with frequent scrubbings, he said before a recent shift, it’s hard to remove the essence of the greasy food he works around.

“I hate when my boss tells me she won’t give me a raise because she can smell me,” he said.

Johnson, 44, needs the two paychecks to pay rent for his apartment at a single-room occupancy hotel on the city’s north side. While he’s worked at McDonald’s stores for two decades, he still doesn’t get 40 hours a week and makes $8.25 an hour, minimum wage in Illinois.
This is life in one of America’s premier growth industries. Fast-food restaurants have added positions more than twice as fast as the U.S. average during the recovery that began in June 2009. The jobs created by companies including Burger King Worldwide Inc. and Yum (YUM)! Brands Inc., which owns the Pizza Hut, Taco Bell and KFC brands, are among the lowest-paid in the U.S. -- except in the C suite.

Pay Disparity

The pay gap separating fast-food workers from their chief executive officers is growing at each of those companies. The disparity has doubled at McDonald’s Corp. in the last 10 years, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. At the same time, the company helped pay for lobbying against minimum-wage increases and sought to quash the kind of unionization efforts that erupted recently on the streets of Chicago and New York.

Older workers like Johnson are staffing fast-food grills and fryers more often, according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey. In 2010, 16- to 19-year-olds made up 17 percent of food preparation and serving workers, down from almost a quarter in 2000, as older, underemployed Americans took those jobs.
 
No, it makes me sad that others don't stop to think that maybe that elderly woman flipping burgers needs the money and the benefits and people look down on her for not being educated enough and too old for other jobs, or that guy doing it is supplementing his other job so his kid can go to soccer camp.

You all just make assumption about others without knowing them and their circumstances in life. It makes me feel sad and sorry that you can not have compassion for others who arent as bright or well educated and you equate them to chimpanzees.
You seem to think a lack of respect is equal to contempt. Respect is a step up from null status, I don't think anything about burger flippers, unless they can demonstrate either palpable stupidity or intelligence they'll remain there. As opposed to a judge or doctor who gets respect for the years they sweated through schooling and work.

Oh and I feel sorry for you too, the pretentious sound to your writing must have been such an impediment when you were writing a resume.
 
You seem to think a lack of respect is equal to contempt. Respect is a step up from null status, I don't think anything about burger flippers, unless they can demonstrate either palpable stupidity or intelligence they'll remain there. As opposed to a judge or doctor who gets respect for the years they sweated through schooling and work.

Oh and I feel sorry for you too, the pretentious sound to your writing must have been such an impediment when you were writing a resume.

I am sorry you have self esteem issues.
 
There is nothing shameful in taking a job at McDonald's...

This does not mean that you are worth more than the market bears. The reality is these jobs really can be filled by the least educated and skilled... Demanding more than they would get for the job is counterproductive. You simply hand the job to somebody that fits that bill.
Like my congressman?
 
Of course not. Tell that to the thousands and thousands of professionals who had to find fast food jobs when the economy tanked six years ago. You know, the same guys and gals the right berated, telling them that. Unfortunately, very few of them were hired.
Whether or not they are skilled doesn't change that the job can be filled by somebody less skilled. Demanding that they pay you what you were supposedly worth at your past job doesn't change that they will fill that job with that other person. Ignoring reality because you "feel" that it should be ignored won't change what happens.

Why? Because with all the talk about how it's so easy to work at these places, it costs thousands and thousands of dollars to retrain each new worker once that professional finally finds a job in his field.
It does not take thousands to train a McDonald's worker. I've worked there, I know.

Take a look at this guy, another representative fast food worker. There's literally hundreds of thousands like him out there...working two, three jobs just to scrape by.

You know who they are, Damo. You guys call them "TAKERS"

None of which changes reality. You can emote all over the board until we have to hire a cleaning crew, and it still won't change that they can hire the least educated and skilled worker to replace you. Demanding that they pay you something extravagant when you know they can replace you with a dropout doesn't change that they absolutely will replace you with the dropout.
 
Are you really this ignorant, SF, or are you pretending?

Do you know how much senior have to live on?

Do you know how many seniors live well below the poverty level without anyone to help?

Dearest Howey... before you go all emo... perhaps you would do me the favor of actually READING what it is that I responded to?

Can you do that Howey? Read what Mott wrote. Read my response. Then you can choose whether or not you wish to apologize for your stupidity.
 
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