Newtown - the case for seeing the photos

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tekkychick

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I personally avoid looking at photos of murdered people, people killed in natural disasters, etc. But Michael Moore has a pretty compelling argument for why releasing photos of the Newtown victims might be useful. Just reading his description makes me sick. I don't need the pictures to be in favor of greater gun control. But maybe they do need to be shown

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/america-you-must-not-look-away-how-finish-nra

A couple excerpts:

Because if we were to seriously look at the 20 slaughtered children – I mean really look at them, with their bodies blown apart, many of them so unrecognizable the only way their parents could identify them was by the clothes they were wearing – what would be our excuse not to act? Now. Right now. This very instant! How on earth could anyone not spring into action the very next moment after seeing the bullet-riddled bodies of these little boys and girls?

Dr. Cyril Wecht, past president of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, told me this:

The kind of ammunition used by the Newtown killer would have produced very extensive, severe and mutilating injuries of the head and face in these small victims. Depending on the number of shots striking a child’s head, substantial portions of the head would be literally blasted away. The underlying brain tissue would be extensively lacerated with portions of hemorrhagic brain tissue protruding through the fractured calvarium and basilar skull, some of which would remain on portions of the face...actual physical identification of each child would have been extremely difficult, and in many instances impossible, even by the parents of any particular child.

We also know this, according to Dr. Wecht:

In one case, the parents have commented publicly upon the damage to their child, reporting that his chin and left hand were missing. Most probably, this child had brought his hand up to his face in shock and for protection and had the hand blasted away along with the lower part of his face.


But I am telling you now, that moment will come with the Newtown photos – and you will have to look. You will have to look at who and what we are, and what we've allowed to happen. At the end of World War II, General Eisenhower ordered that thousands of German civilians be forced to march through the concentration camps so they could witness what was happening just down the road from them during the years that they turned their gaze away, or didn't ask, or didn't do anything to stop the murder of millions.
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I read his article last month. It is excellent. Emmett Till's courageous mother made a difference. If any of these parents ever do the same thing, it will be the end of the debate.

Another small excerpt:

Veronique Pozner, the mother of Noah, the six-year-old boy described by Dr. Wecht, insisted that the Governor of Connecticut look at Noah in an open casket. "I needed it to be real to him," she said. The Governor wept.
 
tekkychick said:
I personally avoid looking at photos of murdered people, people killed in natural disasters, etc. But Michael Moore has a pretty compelling argument for why releasing photos of the Newtown victims might be useful. Just reading his description makes me sick. I don't need the pictures to be in favor of greater gun control. But maybe they do need to be shown

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/america-you-must-not-look-away-how-finish-nra

A couple excerpts:
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Excellent article, thanks. And welcome to our little Slice of Life!

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In another thread it was asked why we still talk about Newtown - my thoughts are
What's the saying? Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it? something like that?

We remember and talk about Newtown because it was horrific.

We remember and talk about Newtown because we hope to somehow avoid a repetition of it in the future.

We remember and talk about Newtown because it happened only five and a half months ago.

We remember and talk about Newtown because it's unresolved - WHY did he do it? WHY did he choose the school? HOW could someone shoot helpless school kids?

We remember and talk about Newtown because -sadly - there are deniers out there.
 
You're really getting yourself in trouble here, Tekky.

We're dealing with nutcases who will accuse you of dancing on the graves of these children instead of supporting their second amendment right to mow them down with a semi-automatic weapon.

And then you mention Michael Moore?

You're in some deep doo doo now!
 
Thanks for the warning, Howey! Maybe I should change my motto from "I have always counted on the kindness of strangers" to "duck and cover"!
 
tekkychick said:
I personally avoid looking at photos of murdered people, people killed in natural disasters, etc. But Michael Moore has a pretty compelling argument for why releasing photos of the Newtown victims might be useful. Just reading his description makes me sick. I don't need the pictures to be in favor of greater gun control. But maybe they do need to be shown

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-friends-blog/america-you-must-not-look-away-how-finish-nra

A couple excerpts:
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Because if we were to seriously look at the 20 millions of slaughtered children – I mean really look at them, with their bodies blown torn and pulled apart....etc.

Maybe you'd be interested in viewing some abortion pictures too.....you can see ten thousand for every one of the others...
 
NOVA said:
Because if we were to seriously look at the 20 millions of slaughtered children – I mean really look at them, with their bodies blown torn and pulled apart....etc.

Maybe you'd be interested in viewing some abortion pictures too.....you can see ten thousand for every one of the others...
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There's a catholic church near me that posts pictures of aborted children* along the roadside, so maybe we should show the pictures of these kids blown apart by a gun.

I wonder why they don't post pictures of the women who died because they couldn't get an abortion?
 
Why do the wacky pro-lifers feel they can use ANYTHING... Even the death of twenty little kids in Newtown....to change the topic of the discussion and make it about abortion.... Again?
 
Howey said:
There's a catholic church near me that posts pictures of aborted children* along the roadside, so maybe we should show the pictures of these kids blown apart by a gun.

I wonder why they don't post pictures of the women who died because they couldn't get an abortion?
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there you go....tit for tat....equal exposure....

and its been legal for 40 years, where are these people dying because they couldn't get one ? How many ?

— there are about 550 deaths giving birth a year out of 4 million births nationally and thats not because of the lack of abortions...
 
maineman said:
Why do the wacky pro-lifers feel they can use ANYTHING... Even the death of twenty little kids in Newtown....to change the topic of the discussion and make it about abortion.... Again?
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The topic seems to be centered around M. Moore's idea to show pictures of dead children to influence peoples minds....

There are a lot of dead children out there to view....even some from Obama drones, don't the others count for anything ?

So the topic is intact.
 
I would proudly frame the photos of the dead children on my wall. Only blood can pay for life, and through their nobel sacrifice, I can enjoy the freedom that I do. The blood of the innocent is the tastiest and most potent blood there is.
 
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