Obama: Marijuana No More Dangerous Than Alcohol

WinterBorn said:
There is one reason you missed. Many, many people drink alcohol without getting drunk. They drink a glass of wine with dinner or a beer after work, and they don't get drunk. I've never known anyone (including myself) who smoked pot without getting stoned.

Marijuana should be legal for many reasons. Comparing it to alcohol is not one of those reasons.
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Disagree. Get too stoned to drive and you drive slower and more cautiously. Too drunk to drive, not so much.
 
Rune said:
Disagree. Get too stoned to drive and you drive slower and more cautiously. Too drunk to drive, not so much.
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I'm not talking about any of the effects when you are stoned or drunk. I am saying that there is a lot of alcohol consumed with not intention of getting drunk. That cannot be said for pot.
 
French 75 said:
Exactly. People smoke to get high (which is perfectly fine), but not everyone drinks for the mind altering properties (fun as they are).

Also Grind, how the fuck do you get a hang over?
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It's bs. The first drink affects you and plenty of people smoke with out getting stoned (not unaffected but not the equivalent of drunk either).
 
WinterBorn said:
I'm not talking about any of the effects when you are stoned or drunk. I am saying that there is a lot of alcohol consumed with not intention of getting drunk. That cannot be said for pot.
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Sure it can, many adults smoke about only a joint to relax after work. Which is about like 2glasses of wine
 
French 75 said:
Exactly. People smoke to get high (which is perfectly fine), but not everyone drinks for the mind altering properties (fun as they are).

Also Grind, how the fuck do you get a hang over?
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Alcohol affects you even after one drink, there is evidence it impairs certain functions after only one.

You must admit you feel relaxed even after only one.

You may not have the buzzed feeling, but it does affect you.
 
Sardonic said:
Alcohol affects you even after one drink, there is evidence it impairs certain functions after only one.

You must admit you feel relaxed even after only one.

You may not have the buzzed feeling, but it does affect you.
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No. Of course, I'm usually relaxed well before I pour my libations.
 
Sardonic said:
Alcohol affects you even after one drink, there is evidence it impairs certain functions after only one.

You must admit you feel relaxed even after only one.

You may not have the buzzed feeling, but it does affect you.
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no offense, but women can't handle their alcohol as much as guys can. just frame size and such. what effects you wont effect everyone.

I don't feel jack shit after one beer.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
From the NIDA site:

...may have consequences...

...could be responsible...

...possibly caused by...

You see the trend?

May? Could? Possibly?

Not very definitive, are they?

Because they've got NOTHING other than their speculative nonsense and fearmongering.
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Sounds like all the words used to describe man made global warming yet you swallowed that hook line and sinker
 
(sigh) aka Tom said:
no offense, but women can't handle their alcohol as much as guys can. just frame size and such. what effects you wont effect everyone.

I don't feel jack shit after one beer.
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No offense but you don't know what you are talking about. Size has nothing to do with ones ability to handle liquor.
 
I Love America said:
No offense but you don't know what you are talking about. Size has nothing to do with ones ability to handle liquor.
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http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?ContentTypeID=1&ContentID=2860

"The extent of alcohol's effect on the central nervous system depends on how much is in your blood and how much blood you have. This is because alcohol is distributed through the body by the water in your bloodstream, according to the NIAAA. The more water in your blood, the more diluted the alcohol will be.

Generally, the lower your body weight, the less blood and water you have. So, smaller people usually have a higher ratio of alcohol in their blood if they drink the same amount a heavier person drinks.


For most people, intoxication begins to occur after two to three drinks, but it can occur more quickly, with fewer drinks in a lighter person. Keep in mind that the alcohol content of different types of beer, wine, and distilled spirits can vary a lot."
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More:

"Men generally can drink more alcohol than women of the same size before they show its effects. This is because women have less body water than men of similar body weight. Because alcohol mixes with water, women tend to have a higher concentration of alcohol than men of the same weight after drinking the same amount of alcohol. Women also have lower levels of one of the enzymes that metabolizes alcohol, so the alcohol they drink stays in their bodies for a longer time. Therefore, with the same amount of consumption, a woman's brain and other organs are exposed to more alcohol and more of its toxic byproducts."
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(sigh) aka Tom said:
no offense, but women can't handle their alcohol as much as guys can. just frame size and such. what effects you wont effect everyone.

I don't feel jack shit after one beer.
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Talk all the macho bs you want, one drink affects you. That does not mean it's making you fall down drunk, but it will affect you.
 
Hasa Diga Eebowai said:
Talk all the macho bs you want, one drink affects you. That does not mean it's making you fall down drunk, but it will affect you.
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to the extent that it affects me, I don't notice it on any quantifiable level. And it's not macho b.s., it's just a fact. Alcohol affects people differently.
 
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